mackem 27,195 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Not looking good sadly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,149 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Don't look like their will be any survivors sadly. Await the conspiracy theories as to why the helicopter was in the flight path of the plane allegedly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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scotty12 2,276 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 News articles written 5 hours before the crash happened Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,296 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Washington D.C. is on ETZ, (Eastern Time Zone), which is -5 hours from GMT, ( Greenwich Mean Time), maybe that explains it ? All commercial and military aircraft operate on Z Time, ( Zulu time), which is the same as GMT. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,483 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 (edited) It's strange how people focus on a spectacular accident like this, me included. But worldwide its estimated that 150,000 people die every day. Except for the families involved, in the scale of things this is nothing. Even if it's terror related. But we will speculate for ever on this incident. Thought for the day. I'm collecting my coat. Edited January 30 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,958 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 Do like the Don's take on this ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,296 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, waltjnr said: Do like the Don's take on this ! He’s got a point with the DEI nonsense. The list of people that the FAA have to include was insane , in fact it said mental problems shouldn’t bar you from being an Air Traffic Controller !!!! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,276 Posted January 30 Report Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, chartpolski said: Washington D.C. is on ETZ, (Eastern Time Zone), which is -5 hours from GMT, ( Greenwich Mean Time), maybe that explains it ? All commercial and military aircraft operate on Z Time, ( Zulu time), which is the same as GMT. Cheers. Was Americans reporting on it mate about it being reported before it happened similar when the bbc reported live that one of the twin towers had fallen 20 minutes or so before it acutely did. who knows we are in the final battle so there will be a lot of foul play as we go along but the number of plane crashes recently ain't no coincidence's that helicopter that crashed can also be controlled like a drone without the need for anyone flying it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,647 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 What and who would benefit from the death of all those poor people scotty ?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,317 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Dei strikes again,did you ever hear the ejit in charge of the aviation,no wonder this happened. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,296 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, mel b said: What and who would benefit from the death of all those poor people scotty ?. With the very limited information available, it looks, to me, like “human error”. In the video there appears to be two commercial aircraft on a landing approach trajectory, and a military helicopter crossing the flight path at right angles. The audio from the tower has the Air Traffic Controller asking if the helicopter crew can see the aircraft, and the helicopter crew saying yes they can, very shortly before the collision. The helicopter crew were evidently operating wearing night vision. Maybe this restricted their periphery vision and they were looking at the wrong commercial aircraft ? It appears the ATC were very late in contacting the helicopter crew and the helicopter crew were not aware of the other commercial aircraft until it was too late ! This is, of course, complete conjecture on my part, and it may prove to be completely wrong; but it does look like nothing more than a tragic accident. Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,250 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, chartpolski said: With the very limited information available, it looks, to me, like “human error”. In the video there appears to be two commercial aircraft on a landing approach trajectory, and a military helicopter crossing the flight path at right angles. The audio from the tower has the Air Traffic Controller asking if the helicopter crew can see the aircraft, and the helicopter crew saying yes they can, very shortly before the collision. The helicopter crew were evidently operating wearing night vision. Maybe this restricted their periphery vision and they were looking at the wrong commercial aircraft ? It appears the ATC were very late in contacting the helicopter crew and the helicopter crew were not aware of the other commercial aircraft until it was too late ! This is, of course, complete conjecture on my part, and it may prove to be completely wrong; but it does look like nothing more than a tragic accident. Cheers. Think they've said unofficially that they were short staffed one controller to manage helicopters and passenger jets... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,296 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Borr said: Think they've said unofficially that they were short staffed one controller to manage helicopters and passenger jets... Could be; as I said it’s complete conjecture on my part. The US has excellent crash investigators and the “black box” of the aircraft has been recovered so there will be more information incoming. Just heard the helicopters “black box” has also been recovered. Cheers. Edited January 31 by chartpolski 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,242 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 15 minutes ago, chartpolski said: With the very limited information available, it looks, to me, like “human error”. In the video there appears to be two commercial aircraft on a landing approach trajectory, and a military helicopter crossing the flight path at right angles. The audio from the tower has the Air Traffic Controller asking if the helicopter crew can see the aircraft, and the helicopter crew saying yes they can, very shortly before the collision. The helicopter crew were evidently operating wearing night vision. Maybe this restricted their periphery vision and they were looking at the wrong commercial aircraft ? It appears the ATC were very late in contacting the helicopter crew and the helicopter crew were not aware of the other commercial aircraft until it was too late ! This is, of course, complete conjecture on my part, and it may prove to be completely wrong; but it does look like nothing more than a tragic accident. Cheers. who’s going to listen to you mate regarding aircraft ? you designed them for how long mate and didn’t even realise they fly upside down lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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