CVD

[Francie, 2,428]

Iv been doing a bit of reading an the medical consensus says that the the artery walls are thin an that ldl can get through,iv been reading some research an this professor says the artery walls are alot thicker an ldl cannot enter it.

@Golyhave you looked at causes of heart/cvd dicease,one of the main contributors is diabetes,to much sugar/glucose in the blood,that damages the artery walls.

[Francie, 2,428]

  On 07/02/2025 at 15:58, Francie, said:

Iv been doing a bit of reading an the medical consensus says that the the artery walls are thin an that ldl can get through,iv been reading some research an this professor says the artery walls are alot thicker an ldl cannot enter it.

@Golyhave you looked at causes of heart/cvd dicease,one of the main contributors is diabetes,to much sugar/glucose in the blood,that damages the artery walls.

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An because there diabetic they don't have enough insulin to take the glucose out of bloodstream

[TOMO 26,963]

  On 07/02/2025 at 15:58, Francie, said:

Iv been doing a bit of reading an the medical consensus says that the the artery walls are thin an that ldl can get through,iv been reading some research an this professor says the artery walls are alot thicker an ldl cannot enter it.

@Golyhave you looked at causes of heart/cvd dicease,one of the main contributors is diabetes,to much sugar/glucose in the blood,that damages the artery walls.

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he wont believe you....its all saturated fats fault ....even though we been eating it 7 million years...

sugar is fine even though we only been eating it in todays quantity between 50 and 100 years

[Goly 1,819]

Like knocking on wood with you two lol.

Excess sugar, excess saturated fat, both bad for you. It's like you're trying to convince yourself that your diet is the best. A balanced diet all the way you Pek eating poofters! Lol

[Francie, 2,428]

  On 07/02/2025 at 17:04, Goly said:

Like knocking on wood with you two lol.

Excess sugar, excess saturated fat, both bad for you. It's like you're trying to convince yourself that your diet is the best. A balanced diet all the way you Pek eating poofters! Lol

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Here's my point tho saturated fat or cholesterol does not damage your artery walls,the cholesterol is there to fill in the holes in the cell lining of the arteries to protect them,it's the sugar/glucose that does the damage in the first place

[Goly 1,819]

  On 07/02/2025 at 18:49, Francie, said:

Here's my point tho saturated fat or cholesterol does not damage your artery walls,the cholesterol is there to fill in the holes in the cell lining of the arteries to protect them,it's the sugar/glucose that does the damage in the first place

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Incorrect, high LDL levels means some particles slips through small pores in your endothelium, once they become oxidised they trigger an inflammatory response.

[Francie, 2,428]

  On 07/02/2025 at 18:53, Goly said:

Incorrect, high LDL levels means some particles slips through small pores in your endothelium, once they become oxidised they trigger an inflammatory response.

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Edited because I wrote the wrong thing.

Ldl enters the endothelium an the hdl takes it out.

How an why does it build up if the hdl taking it out is a normal process?

The liver makes all of our cholesterol,our dietary intake doesn't affect it apparently because the liver can regulate the amount that's coming an going.

Hdl doesn't enter the artery walls apparently even tho it's smaller than the ldl.

Whys that you reckon?

How can ldl be bad whenever our own liver makes it an sends it around the body to the places that need it?

For most people, dietary cholesterol has only a modest impact on blood cholesterol levels, meaning the amount of cholesterol you eat from food does not significantly affect the cholesterol in your bloodstream; current research suggests that focusing on limiting saturated fat is more important for managing cholesterol levels than restricting dietary cholesterol alone. 

This paragraph above doesn't make sense

Edited February 7 by Francie,

[Goly 1,819]

  On 07/02/2025 at 19:07, Francie, said:

Yes but there not pores there damaged lining in the endothelium is it not?

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Yes, LDL can get through due to damage of the endothelium, but they also get through due to transcytosis. The endothelium can be damaged by diabetes, high blood pressure, smoking, obesity, inflammation, etc.

[Goly 1,819]

There's only one way to find out, keep on eating lots of saturated fat, see what it does in the long term. You keep on looking for reassurance so you must be concerned? I'll be happy eating a balanced diet, that includes carbohydrates.

[Francie, 2,428]

  On 07/02/2025 at 19:44, Goly said:

There's only one way to find out, keep on eating lots of saturated fat, see what it does in the long term. You keep on looking for reassurance so you must be concerned? I'll be happy eating a balanced diet, that includes carbohydrates.

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I'm not looking reassurance goly,it's very interesting this cholesterol craic lol

[Goly 1,819]

  On 07/02/2025 at 22:02, Francie, said:

I'm not looking reassurance goly,it's very interesting this cholesterol craic lol

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Eat hundreds of grams of it mate, the more the better.

[Francie, 2,428]

Hmm zero carb life does a cac to check her arteries an it was 0,clean as a whistle an she's carnivore 16 years lol