Banana Republic ?

[mC HULL 12,779]

4 minutes ago, Goly said:

I suppose it's much easier to do when the natives only make up about 11% of the already small population.

so again immigration is detrimental to the natives 

but we have known that for millennia and your still arguing for the good in it  lol

[Goly 421]

Just now, WILF said:

That’s me done with you, I can’t believe you are so thick a shit as to not figure it out so you must just be being deliberately obtuse…..

What isn’t funny however is how many people think exactly like what you have been writing, as in that is their belief system…..indeed that is the government isn’t it and has been for decades. 
And that folks is why we are in the state we are in. 

So, no answer then, so, given your sums, we are short of £200 billion tax revenue with all the same demands. So, let's go to the extreme measure of kicking out all immigrants, the money saved on some of the dead wood would not cover the £200 billion lost, so, where would that leave us, tax hikes or face more service cuts?

[Goly 421]

Just now, mC HULL said:

so again immigration is detrimental to the natives 

but we have known that for millennia and your still arguing for the good in it  lol

I imagine the UAE's would view things differently if their native population was 80% greater.

[Goly 421]

It would be great paying zero tax wouldn't it, but, instead of living in cloud cuckoo land we live in reality.

[mC HULL 12,779]

Just now, Goly said:

It would be great paying zero tax wouldn't it, but, instead of living in cloud cuckoo land we live in reality.

800billion from tax a year and what the f**k do  we get back for that ?

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1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

800billion from tax a year and what the f**k do  we get back for that ?

Would we get more out of it if we spent £200 billion less or would we be even more worse off? 

[mC HULL 12,779]

roads like beirut worse dental  then someone in an african in a village 

im lucky i get at drs etc straight away some poor c**ts the dr dies of old age before he gets round to them terrible education system an army couldn’t take the isle a man  a navy who’s nuclear warheads  drop out the subermarine into the drink lol and can’t stop rubber boat lol 

 

[mC HULL 12,779]

4 minutes ago, Goly said:

Would we get more out of it if we spent £200 billion less or would we be even more worse off? 

you need to find were the 800 billion has gone first 

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3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

you need to find were the 800 billion has gone first 

Health care and the rest of our services, where do you think it goes mate?

[chartpolski 23,914]

I started this thread asking “what is happening to my country ?”.

That it is on a downward spiral I’m of no doubt, even Starmer is on record as saying things will get worse.

Whos to blame for this ? Well, if I ran a country and it was going bankrupt, I’d be to blame !

So, who runs the UK ? Well, , nominally, it’s the government, ( I say “nominally” because someone is bound to say it’s not the government, it’s the Royals/ Establishment/Deepstate/ WEF/ Masons/Illuminatti, take your pick.), but it’s the government that makes the rules.

The Tory’s have overseen 14 years of decline, I like to think it’s because of gross incompetence, not a planned strategy.

Now it’s Labour who are accelerating that decline , also I think, by gross incompetence, but also by ideology and left wing dogma, driven by a deeply held class hatred and envy.

So what can we do to halt the decline ? Well we stop voting for the parties that are responsible for it.

Personally I’d give Farage and Reform a chance, on the simple premise that they couldn’t do worse and may just do better. Of course they arn’t perfect, no one is but let’s  see, they can always be voted out again.

Other than that , I don’t know.

without change, I fear for my country…. 
Cheers.

Edited Saturday at 13:03 by chartpolski

[Goly 421]

11 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

roads like beirut worse dental  then someone in an african in a village 

im lucky i get at drs etc straight away some poor c**ts the dr dies of old age before he gets round to them terrible education system an army couldn’t take the isle a man  a navy who’s nuclear warheads  drop out the subermarine into the drink lol and can’t stop rubber boat lol 

 

Yes, our services are the worst they have ever been, but, on planet are you on to think that they would be better or the same if we put in less tax revenue? The bottom feeders would still be the ones suffering with even worse services. We are still relatively well off compared to many countries, how low would you be willing to accept for a bit more cash in your pocket instead of the system?

Edited Saturday at 13:04 by Goly

[mC HULL 12,779]

5 minutes ago, Goly said:

Yes, our services are the worst they have ever been, but, on planet are you on to think that they would be better or the same if we put in less tax revenue? The bottom feeders would still be the ones suffering with even worse services.

i want to know  we’re is the money going you can’t get an appointment i’m in the same dr i’ve always been in now the waiting room is half the size no one in it  

as a kid there was 20 drs and 100 people waiting at any one of one in out much better then what’s changed this was under major early 90s 

Edited Saturday at 13:07 by mC HULL

[Goly 421]

6 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i want to know  we’re is the money going you can’t get an appointment i’m in the same dr i’ve always been in now the waiting room is half the size no one in it  

as a kid there was 20 drs and 100 people waiting at any one of one in out much better then what’s changed this was under major early 90s 

Wouldn't we all because it clearly isn't working is it? You'll know as much as me, that even though things were getting worse, after COVID it got considerably worse in the NHS.

[WILF 47,169]

19 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I started this thread asking “what is happening to my country ?”.

That it is on a downward spiral I’m of no doubt, even Starmer is on record as saying things will get worse.

Whos to blame for this ? Well, if I ran a country and it was going bankrupt, I’d be to blame !

So, who runs the UK ? Well, , nominally, it’s the government, ( I say “nominally” because someone is bound to say it’s not the government, it’s the Royals/ Establishment/Deepstate/ WEF/ Masons/Illuminatti, take your pick.), but it’s the government that makes the rules.

The Tory’s have overseen 14 years of decline, I like to think it’s because of gross incompetence, not a planned strategy.

Now it’s Labour who are accelerating that decline , also I think, by gross incompetence, but also by ideology and left wing dogma, driven by a deeply held class hatred and envy.

So what can we do to halt the decline ? Well we stop voting for the parties that are responsible for it.

Personally I’d give Farage and Reform a chance, on the simple premise that they couldn’t do worse and may just do better. Of course they arn’t perfect, no one is but let’s  see, they can always be voted out again.

Other than that , I don’t know.

without change, I fear for my country…. 
Cheers.

I’d say the timelines are bigger but I agree with all of that otherwise

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1 minute ago, WILF said:

I’d say the timelines are bigger but I agree with all of that otherwise

The decline can be traced back to various points in time; the retreat from East of Suez, the end of WW2 or even the end of WW1, but the timeline I mentioned is where I see the decline personally in my life.

Cheers.