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7 minutes ago, Francie, said:

Yes because only noah an his family were righteous in God's eyes,the rest were evil to the core,they were committing the most despicable acts against themselves an nature,raping an murdering there own children,sacrificing there children to false gods,an many other abominations,if you read on it will tell you what they were doing.

You may think it's not right that he done it but sure you can ask him about it when your time comes lol

If you read Matthew it says when the disciples asked jesus when will the end of day be,note near the bottom it says in the days of noah so shall it be the coming of the son of man.

Meaning whatever happened in the days of noah to cause God to flood the earth the end of days will be when the same thing happens that happened in the days of noah.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

I find his work very strange, why create man when he is easily corrupted and often evil to the core? These behaviours obviously anger the Lord, his vengeance is evidence of that. 

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The king James is  written in Old English the newer versions are wrote in current English,if you put each bible side by side an checked each verse they'd be the same only in different English's,iv no

I think it’s worth saying that (imho) there is a massive difference between a belief/faith in something more & organised religion (a club). Let’s not forget that long before the written word

The Bible is basically all common sense, don’t kill people, don’t be a f***ing arsehole in word, deed, thought. Give a small (small !!) proportion of what you are lucky enough to have to help out

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11 minutes ago, Francie, said:

Yes because only noah an his family were righteous in God's eyes,the rest were evil to the core,they were committing the most despicable acts against themselves an nature,raping an murdering there own children,sacrificing there children to false gods,an many other abominations,if you read on it will tell you what they were doing.

You may think it's not right that he done it but sure you can ask him about it when your time comes lol

If you read Matthew it says when the disciples asked jesus when will the end of day be,note near the bottom it says in the days of noah so shall it be the coming of the son of man.

Meaning whatever happened in the days of noah to cause God to flood the earth the end of days will be when the same thing happens that happened in the days of noah.

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Faaackin hell, Francie!!  😄 👍

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7 hours ago, kanny said:

Omniscience removes Free Will and choice from the equation.....

No it doesn't,God is omniscience,not us,we have a choice kandy mate

 

4 hours ago, Goly said:

Yes, very perverted in parts, it's a very strange read, god doesn't seem a particularly nice entity in Genesis.

I would say it does,ok look at the things we created,say a computer,complex machine,would you look at a computer an say that randomly came into existence on its own lol no it was design.

Nothing comes into existence of of nothing

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Just now, shaaark said:

Is it?!  God's will?  🙂

He's a funny one, I mean he created man from scratch but needed the rib of Adam to create Eve, just because he believed he needed a helper. 

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8 minutes ago, Goly said:

I find his work very strange, why create man when he is easily corrupted and often evil to the core? These behaviours obviously anger the Lord, his vengeance is evidence of that. 

I don't know all the answers mate,just trying to explain it from the way I see it.

The people that use there free will to be evil will be punished for eternity when the time comes 

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3 minutes ago, Francie, said:

I don't know all the answers mate,just trying to explain it from the way I see it.

The people that use there free will to be evil will be punished for eternity when the time comes 

It's all a massive contradiction, God created all the living creatures and saw that they were good, yet the serpent committed a premeditated sin. 

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13 minutes ago, Goly said:

Isn't it ironic, the blissful Garden of Eden is situated in Iraq of all places, fantastic! 😁

Yes, hence why when iraq was illegally invaded the 1st things stolen was artifacts from its museums, and before modern iraq it was ancient Mesopotamia, and the annunaki history of winged beings who came to earth from the heavens

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13 minutes ago, Francie, said:

You have faith stave,just not in God but billions of years,which definitely has not been proven to be true.

Carbon or other dating has been proven time an time again to be grossly inaccurate,how can we date something to be billions of years ago but we have nothing to back it against?humans only live to 120 years max,so how can these scientists say the life or half life of these chemicals are billions of years old but no one has lived that long to be sure,it's all assumptions an extrapolation,imo.

What I mean is for instance,the longest living tree is say what 4500 years old,therefore we can use that tree as a backing to date things an be 100percent sure that it's the truth,where as there's nothing to 100percent back billions of years old,it's all assumptions

I’m no scientist but how I look at it is science tries to prove or disprove theories where as people who believe in god seem to say this is what it says in my little book so it’s true and you can’t question that because it’s the word of “ a god “ even if people have other little books that tell a different story 

I would say there’s more truth in my tax return than in the bible and that’s a complete fu*king work of fiction ( lol )

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There are many recorded instances and myths of catastrophic floods across the world and religions. Just as there are records and myths of great earthquakes and volcanoes.

But the  biblical flood is the one of interest here.

This flood supposedly happened in what is now called “the cradle of civilisation”, the Middle East, particularly around the Mediterranean,( Latin: “Middle Earth”). 
The breaching of the Bosporus Straight would allow the Black sea to catastrophically  flood the Mediterranean basin, as would the breaching of the Straits of Gibraltar, (the Pillars of Hercules).

Either event would set the burgeoning civilisations around the Mediterranean back massively, with only a few , who may have been aware of what was happening and prepared for it, escaping to higher ground and surviving.

So was this, if it actually occurred, just a natural event ?

Or was it the act of an angry and vengeful god ?

I prefer to believe the former.

Others may believe the latter.

All opinions are valid.

Cheers.

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15 minutes ago, Francie, said:

I don't know all the answers mate,just trying to explain it from the way I see it.

The people that use there free will to be evil will be punished for eternity when the time comes 

What about God, he was pretty evil on several occasions, apparently?!

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3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

There are many recorded instances and myths of catastrophic floods across the world and religions. Just as there are records and myths of great earthquakes and volcanoes.

But the  biblical flood is the one of interest here.

This flood supposedly happened in what is now called “the cradle of civilisation”, the Middle East, particularly around the Mediterranean,( Latin: “Middle Earth”). 
The breaching of the Bosporus Straight would allow the Black sea to catastrophically  flood the Mediterranean basin, as would the breaching of the Straits of Gibraltar, (the Pillars of Hercules).

Either event would set the burgeoning civilisations around the Mediterranean back massively, with only a few , who may have been aware of what was happening and prepared for it, escaping to higher ground and surviving.

So was this, if it actually occurred, just a natural event ?

Or was it the act of an angry and vengeful god ?

I prefer to believe the former.

Others may believe the latter.

All opinions are valid.

Cheers.

It doesn't make sense, so, Noah's Ark ended up in some mountains in the middle east, the ark contained a pair of every species of earth, so, how did the sloth end up reaching South America? Hahahaha

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10 minutes ago, Goly said:

It's all a massive contradiction, God created all the living creatures and saw that they were good, yet the serpent committed a premeditated sin. 

Yes God knew the story what would happen,the sin the flood the resurrection an the end,an everything in between,his creation is for his glory,so youl have to take it up with him whenever it's your time to go lol

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25 minutes ago, Francie, said:

No it doesn't,God is omniscience,not us,we have a choice kandy mate

If God is omniscient ,all knowing,  past, present and future then your  perceived choice would infact be predetermined, if its predetermined then it cannot be a free will  choice 😉 

Also if you have no choice/free will you are a slave of God 

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