The Bible.

[chartpolski 24,067]

3 minutes ago, Goly said:

It doesn't make sense, so, Noah's Ark ended up in some mountains in the middle east, the ark contained a pair of every species of earth, so, how did the sloth end up reaching South America? Hahahaha

If you are going to look at the bible objectively, you should also look at the Apocryphal Texts, the books that were omitted from the bible 

Also, an interesting read is “Lilith” , believed by some to have been Adams first wife.

Studying the bible objectively or with an open mind can take you off on some tangents  !

Cheers.

[Goly 667]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

If you are going to look at the bible objectively, you should also look at the Apocryphal Texts, the books that were omitted from the bible 

Also, an interesting read is “Lilith” , believed by some to have been Adams first wife.

Studying the bible objectively or with an open mind can take you off on some tangents  !

Cheers.

Which is why I can't take it seriously, we can't cherry pick what is objective or what is metaphorical to suit our narrative. 

[Francie, 2,280]

2 minutes ago, shaaark said:

What about God, he was pretty evil on several occasions, apparently?!

Not evil,righteously judging his creation

 

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

It doesn't make sense, so, Noah's Ark ended up in some mountains in the middle east, the ark contained a pair of every species of earth, so, how did the sloth end up reaching South America? Hahahaha

No not every species,every kind,like do you beleive that dogs came from wolves?

This is the whole debate about evolution,or adaption I would say,I beleive that all the species of the world are decendants from a certain kind,like the canidae family,like from wolfs to coyotes foxes jackals dingos dogs,that can be proven 100 percent,tested an observable,which is science,but to beleive all the above evolved from a different kind has no scientific backing at all,does it,it all apples to say the cat family,or the bird family,or ape family,there is absolutely no testable or observable science to say evoloution(macro) that say fish evolved into mammals or birds evolved into cats,there's no fossil record of any of it,that's why I don't beleive in macro evolution 

Animals ended up in different places because humans took them there,like the fox was took to Australia.

 

[Francie, 2,280]

11 minutes ago, kanny said:

If God is omniscient ,all knowing,  past, present and future then your  perceived choice would infact be predetermined, if its predetermined then it cannot be a free will  choice  

Also if you have no choice/free will you are a slave of God 

Yes the whole plan was predetermined,but we have a choice through jesus to be with him in eternity or hades.

 

[kanny 20,649]

1 minute ago, Francie, said:

Yes the whole plan was predetermined,but we have a choice through jesus to be with him in eternity or hades.

 

No you don't , not if God a dog or a frog is omniscient, Omniscience removes Free Will, there's no getting around it bud.

[shaaark 10,875]

3 minutes ago, Francie, said:

Not evil,righteously judging his creation

Yeah, OK lol.

 

but to beleive all the above evolved from a different kind has no scientific backing at all,does it,

Yeas, yes it does.  Maybe you need to read some scientific books on evolution etc, instead of biblical science fiction!!

Animals ended up in different places because humans took them there,like the fox was took to Australia.

 

 

That's a tad tenuous, eh, Francie?!  Lol

[Francie, 2,280]

9 minutes ago, kanny said:

No you don't , not if God a dog or a frog is omniscient, Omniscience removes Free Will, there's no getting around it bud.

But we are not omniscient,God is,are you saying we don't have free will to choose what we are doing?

 

[Goly 667]

18 minutes ago, Francie, said:

Not evil,righteously judging his creation

 

No not every species,every kind,like do you beleive that dogs came from wolves?

This is the whole debate about evolution,or adaption I would say,I beleive that all the species of the world are decendants from a certain kind,like the canidae family,like from wolfs to coyotes foxes jackals dingos dogs,that can be proven 100 percent,tested an observable,which is science,but to beleive all the above evolved from a different kind has no scientific backing at all,does it,it all apples to say the cat family,or the bird family,or ape family,there is absolutely no testable or observable science to say evoloution(macro) that say fish evolved into mammals or birds evolved into cats,there's no fossil record of any of it,that's why I don't beleive in macro evolution 

Animals ended up in different places because humans took them there,like the fox was took to Australia.

 

Ok, so all the species evolved from a pair of the same family and spread across the globe in a few thousand years? We have cats weighing less than 1kg and over 300kg, evolution hey, the work of a god. Lol

[WILF 47,304]

1 hour ago, paul sr said:

I find it very hard to belive in  a god,when i see all the death and destruction going on in the world . I think all religions,down the centuries have being used as a way to control the masses. I also believe a lot of very evil people us religion as a cloak of respectability. 

I’m sure many would concur mate…..but, there is an opposite side to that.

Go and stand in wild places, fields, woods, mountains, Loughs, fjords….untouched and unspoilt by human hands…..then you get a feeling of something more

Now, I have said many times I think “god” is a package that lets a human mind comprehend that which is just too massive to comprehend….but something more is at play somewhere 

[jukel123 8,299]

My mother used to say, when I get up there I'm going to tell that God a thing or two. He's got some explaining to do, like why he has allowed such cruelty and misery in the world. She reckoned he could stick his heaven unless he/ she/ it gave her some satisfactory answers. I go along with that.

[jukel123 8,299]

Just now, WILF said:

I’m sure many would concur mate…..but, there is an opposite side to that.

Go and stand in wild places, fields, woods, mountains, Loughs, fjords….untouched and unspoilt by human hands…..then you get a feeling of something more

Now, I have said many times I think “god” is a package that lets a human mind comprehend that which is just too massive to comprehend….but something more is at play somewhere 

Pantheism along with personal morality is my religion.

[Goly 667]

 

[Francie, 2,280]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

“Religion is the opium of the masses.”

Karl Marx

Cheers.

I'm surprised that you quoted this man,one of the head honchos of communism/socialism who was an evil man,who got a hand maiden pregnant an rejected the waine,a son,disowned him,who literally starved his children to near death an two out of three of his children committed suicide,what a guy to quote

Also why is half of marx work not published,he definitely was religious but hid it,but it was evident in his life an his writings,they were very dark an stunk of worship of lucifer

[kanny 20,649]

Just now, jukel123 said:

Pantheism along with personal morality is my religion.

Naturalistic pantheism is about as close as I can get to something spiritual, everything is God 

[Francie, 2,280]

5 minutes ago, Goly said:

Ok, so all the species evolved from a pair of the same family and spread across the globe in a few thousand years? We have cats weighing less than 1kg and over 300kg, evolution hey, the work of a god. Lol

Now your getting it lol