Wolfdog91 7,233 Posted Friday at 18:44 Report Share Posted Friday at 18:44 25 minutes ago, Chid said: Sky daddy what a cracker that is Just because I'm Christian doesn't mean I'm a humorless c**t lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,299 Posted Friday at 19:09 Report Share Posted Friday at 19:09 Is there a religion that doesn't want your money? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,830 Posted Friday at 19:44 Report Share Posted Friday at 19:44 3 hours ago, Goly said: DNA & cellular mechanisms are extraordinary complex but that doesn't prove intentional design. Also shows its no fluke either, its follows a pre programmed method, something that isnt common in nature, only special to this plane called earth, also vibrations that we exist on keeps us only seeing what happens here on earth, change the frequency and a lot of other stuff happens, its too big for our mortal minds to comprehend 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,305 Posted Friday at 19:46 Report Share Posted Friday at 19:46 36 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Is there a religion that doesn't want your money? Yeah, yourself 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,830 Posted Friday at 19:50 Report Share Posted Friday at 19:50 3 hours ago, Stavross said: In science you have theory, probability and fact test the theory gives you probability, if you can then test the theory in different ways and get the same answer you then get fact you can’t test religion because it’s only the word of human kind no religion has ever come out with fact or probability only theory At a cellular level everything that lives is made of the same stuff put together in slightly different ways, science still hasn’t got all the answers but we are learning at an unbelievable rate and through theory and probability becomes fact where as religion will only ever have theory because there’s no evidence to test to even get them to probability let alone fact No evidence? The evidence is all around us, even as far back as the old testament, all been proven by the discovery of the buried pharaoh's found in egypt, noahs ark remains discovered in Ararat in Turkey, the chariots they found in the red sea, the great fountains of the deep in the deep oceans, the fossil beds that show global floods and the sediments which proves noahs flood, check out the permafrosts in russia and alaska, the bible has been proven correct many times over the years so why not the existence of God? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,305 Posted Friday at 19:50 Report Share Posted Friday at 19:50 1 hour ago, Goly said: I have never understood that logic, if they aren't doing any harm, what's that supposed to mean? We have no evidence whatsoever of a god, the complexity of DNA isn't evidence of creation, classing life and other marvels as down to the work of a deity is ignorant and shortsighted. People can believe what they like, but if they can't handle any scrutiny then perhaps they aren't as convinced as they let on? Some people think it’s silly to believe in intelligent design and some people think it’s silly to say it’s all just a happy accident…..each to their own I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 667 Posted Friday at 20:04 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 20:04 13 minutes ago, WILF said: Some people think it’s silly to believe in intelligent design and some people think it’s silly to say it’s all just a happy accident…..each to their own I suppose. But, evolution has at least some scientific standing, creation has zero. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,153 Posted Friday at 20:15 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:15 10 minutes ago, Goly said: But, evolution has at least some scientific standing, creation has zero. What kinda science we going with the same as below and global warming lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paul sr 825 Posted Friday at 20:17 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:17 I find it very hard to belive in a god,when i see all the death and destruction going on in the world . I think all religions,down the centuries have being used as a way to control the masses. I also believe a lot of very evil people us religion as a cloak of respectability. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,875 Posted Friday at 20:21 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:21 7 hours ago, WILF said: Books haven’t got anything to answer for, that’s ludicrous ! Its human beings who have stuff to answer for, not books. Banning homosexuality won’t suddenly make them all not gay anymore, if you want to stop all those things then ban human beings (which is of course a nonsensical proposition)…..until you do that, you will keep getting all the very best and all the very worst man kind has to offer. If people just “loved god and loved each other” as per the Bible then everything you mentioned there wouldn’t exist…..but you want to ban the thing that actually promotes it ? John Lydon said it best, Wilf, rise, PiL, 'the written word IS a lie!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,068 Posted Friday at 20:22 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:22 “Religion is the opium of the masses.” Karl Marx Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 667 Posted Friday at 20:27 Author Report Share Posted Friday at 20:27 9 minutes ago, scotty12 said: What kinda science we going with the same as below and global warming lol Yeah, that science, backed by empirical data. Or would you prefer to listen to unproven stories written by anonymous men many centuries ago? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 15,903 Posted Friday at 20:38 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:38 13 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: No evidence? The evidence is all around us, even as far back as the old testament, all been proven by the discovery of the buried pharaoh's found in egypt, noahs ark remains discovered in Ararat in Turkey, the chariots they found in the red sea, the great fountains of the deep in the deep oceans, the fossil beds that show global floods and the sediments which proves noahs flood, check out the permafrosts in russia and alaska, the bible has been proven correct many times over the years so why not the existence of God? I believe some of the stories in the bible to be true, I believe there was a massive flood but I believe this to be a tsunami probably caused by an earthquake, but people at that time had been told stories of a vengeful god, I also believe there was probably a character called Jesus but I don’t believe he was the son of god, for me the numbers are all wrong, things were happening millions of years before us but all of a sudden once we came it was all about us and everything before us was irrelevant, if god created man in his image why do we spend so much time hating each other, surely we are all the same, black, white, yellow, Christian, Muslim, Hindu all believe differently in one way or another, they can’t all be right but they all think they are without actually being able to bring any real time evidence only what was written centuries ago where as the science side of it is constantly moving forward 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,280 Posted Friday at 20:41 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:41 7 hours ago, Goly said: God wasn't vengeful yet he condemned everyone and everything to death apart from Noah and his family? Yes because only noah an his family were righteous in God's eyes,the rest were evil to the core,they were committing the most despicable acts against themselves an nature,raping an murdering there own children,sacrificing there children to false gods,an many other abominations,if you read on it will tell you what they were doing. You may think it's not right that he done it but sure you can ask him about it when your time comes lol If you read Matthew it says when the disciples asked jesus when will the end of day be,note near the bottom it says in the days of noah so shall it be the coming of the son of man. Meaning whatever happened in the days of noah to cause God to flood the earth the end of days will be when the same thing happens that happened in the days of noah. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,280 Posted Friday at 20:50 Report Share Posted Friday at 20:50 4 minutes ago, Stavross said: I believe some of the stories in the bible to be true, I believe there was a massive flood but I believe this to be a tsunami probably caused by an earthquake, but people at that time had been told stories of a vengeful god, I also believe there was probably a character called Jesus but I don’t believe he was the son of god, for me the numbers are all wrong, things were happening millions of years before us but all of a sudden once we came it was all about us and everything before us was irrelevant, if god created man in his image why do we spend so much time hating each other, surely we are all the same, black, white, yellow, Christian, Muslim, Hindu all believe differently in one way or another, they can’t all be right but they all think they are without actually being able to bring any real time evidence only what was written centuries ago where as the science side of it is constantly moving forward You have faith stave,just not in God but billions of years,which definitely has not been proven to be true. Carbon or other dating has been proven time an time again to be grossly inaccurate,how can we date something to be billions of years ago but we have nothing to back it against?humans only live to 120 years max,so how can these scientists say the life or half life of these chemicals are billions of years old but no one has lived that long to be sure,it's all assumptions an extrapolation,imo. What I mean is for instance,the longest living tree is say what 4500 years old,therefore we can use that tree as a backing to date things an be 100percent sure that it's the truth,where as there's nothing to 100percent back billions of years old,it's all assumptions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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