Stavross 16,029 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) In science you have theory, probability and fact test the theory gives you probability, if you can then test the theory in different ways and get the same answer you then get fact you can’t test religion because it’s only the word of human kind no religion has ever come out with fact or probability only theory At a cellular level everything that lives is made of the same stuff put together in slightly different ways, science still hasn’t got all the answers but we are learning at an unbelievable rate and through theory and probability becomes fact where as religion will only ever have theory because there’s no evidence to test to even get them to probability let alone fact Edited January 17 by Stavross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,289 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Goly said: Yes, very perverted in parts, it's a very strange read, god doesn't seem a particularly nice entity in Genesis. Check out “Job”. God and the devil have a bet to see if they can make Job lose his faith. They kill his wife, children, flocks, crops, give him diseases, turn his friends against him… all for a bet ! Job doesn’t lose his faith and God gives him a new wife, children , etc. Shame about the others that were destroyed and the torment and torture Job was put through, but hey , God won the bet ! Cheers. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,285 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Random thought...but Idk what's worse Religious people who are self righteous pricks who use the *insert favorite magic book* as an excuse Or atheist who are self righteous pricks but because there so smart not to believe in sky daddy so they are able to be pricks.. Two side of the same coin I guess. Ass hole is an asshole regardless if it's on a pig or a frog 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,896 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Random thought...but Idk what's worse Religious people who are self righteous pricks who use the *insert favorite magic book* as an excuse Or atheist who are self righteous pricks but because there so smart not to believe in sky daddy so they are able to be pricks.. Two side of the same coin I guess. Ass hole is an asshole regardless if it's on a pig or a frog Kin el, wolfy, I don't know whether you're being obtuse or astute?!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,267 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 44 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Random thought...but Idk what's worse Religious people who are self righteous pricks who use the *insert favorite magic book* as an excuse Or atheist who are self righteous pricks but because there so smart not to believe in sky daddy so they are able to be pricks.. Two side of the same coin I guess. Ass hole is an asshole regardless if it's on a pig or a frog You talking about @Goly Wolfie or just random people lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 977 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) 4 minutes ago, scotty12 said: You talking about @Goly Wolfie or just random people lol Bible bashers as well, that includes you Scotty. Edited January 17 by Goly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,583 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Wolfdog91 said: Random thought...but Idk what's worse Religious people who are self righteous pricks who use the *insert favorite magic book* as an excuse Or atheist who are self righteous pricks but because there so smart not to believe in sky daddy so they are able to be pricks.. Two side of the same coin I guess. Ass hole is an asshole regardless if it's on a pig or a frog Sky daddy what a cracker that is 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,285 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 14 minutes ago, scotty12 said: You talking about @Goly Wolfie or just random people lol People in general. Family was big into the church, dads still a Deacon mom goes every Sunday ect. Was basically forced to go in hope it would... whatever. Anyhow saw mor people in the church who'd go about being pricks to any and everyone because they could recit some verses and had a nice suit. Lord forbid you had a bit of a different view of the world them them. Would just go on an on on their high horses . You could tell they got off on it..all because they where religious and went to church. Seen it with Christian Muslims Jews , ect. I mean most of them honestly where shitty people..whored gambled cheated ect but hayyyyyu I believe in sky daddy so I can do this ! Would stop you and rant to your face about how your goin to hell because yadda yadda Then I got away from the house started meeting people, especially in the more nerdy Hobby's i partake in.... And f***ing hell the absolute smugness you'd get from a lot of atheists same holyer then tho type of deal but because they believe in SCIENCE! and something as stupid and silly and a God. Would go rants about how stupid people are for religious stuff. Most of em seemed pretty miserable regardless. People who use their belief system religion or science as a power trip are bad regardless . And honestly you can go far enough either way it gets bad. The amount of weirdos who use both religion and science and an excuse for stuff like goin after kids , racism ect is f****n nuts 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,478 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Huck Finn on religion " I tried prayin but nothing came of it, so I figured there ain't nothing to it" Me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,267 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 30 minutes ago, Goly said: Bible bashers as well, that includes you Scotty. I'm no a bible basher son just believe in god most of our history that we have been told is a lie so no point in getting hung up on it , no good getting too dwelled up on the past when we can only control the future 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 977 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, scotty12 said: I'm no a bible basher son just believe in god most of our history that we have been told is a lie so no point in getting hung up on it , no good getting too dwelled up on the past when we can only control the future But that's the thing, most of our history is a lie yet they hang on to the words of the bible, a compilation of writings by unknown men. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,267 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 17 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: People in general. Family was big into the church, dads still a Deacon mom goes every Sunday ect. Was basically forced to go in hope it would... whatever. Anyhow saw mor people in the church who'd go about being pricks to any and everyone because they could recit some verses and had a nice suit. Lord forbid you had a bit of a different view of the world them them. Would just go on an on on their high horses . You could tell they got off on it..all because they where religious and went to church. Seen it with Christian Muslims Jews , ect. I mean most of them honestly where shitty people..whored gambled cheated ect but hayyyyyu I believe in sky daddy so I can do this ! Would stop you and rant to your face about how your goin to hell because yadda yadda Then I got away from the house started meeting people, especially in the more nerdy Hobby's i partake in.... And f***ing hell the absolute smugness you'd get from a lot of atheists same holyer then tho type of deal but because they believe in SCIENCE! and something as stupid and silly and a God. Would go rants about how stupid people are for religious stuff. Most of em seemed pretty miserable regardless. People who use their belief system religion or science as a power trip are bad regardless . And honestly you can go far enough either way it gets bad. The amount of weirdos who use both religion and science and an excuse for stuff like goin after kids , racism ect is f****n nuts I was only want a short reply of yeah goly is a self righteous prick lol but yeah mate each to their own long aslong as their not trying to throw it down your throat let bygones be bygones live your life as you please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 2,267 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Goly said: But that's the thing, most of our history is a lie yet they hang on to the words of the bible, a compilation of writings by unknown men. If it gives them some faith in life and a little to hang onto then so be it as long as there not doing anyone harm. I've got a sneaky feeling we are going to find out some truths in our history in the not so distant future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 977 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, scotty12 said: If it gives them some faith in life and a little to hang onto then so be it as long as there not doing anyone harm. I've got a sneaky feeling we are going to find out some truths in our history in the not so distant future I have never understood that logic, if they aren't doing any harm, what's that supposed to mean? We have no evidence whatsoever of a god, the complexity of DNA isn't evidence of creation, classing life and other marvels as down to the work of a deity is ignorant and shortsighted. People can believe what they like, but if they can't handle any scrutiny then perhaps they aren't as convinced as they let on? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stavross 16,029 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, Goly said: I have never understood that logic, if they aren't doing any harm, what's that supposed to mean? We have no evidence whatsoever of a god, the complexity of DNA isn't evidence of creation, classing life and other marvels as down to the work of a deity is ignorant and shortsighted. People can believe what they like, but if they can't handle any scrutiny then perhaps they aren't as convinced as they let on? Exactly this, it makes no difference to me what anyone’s beliefs are but you can’t tell me something and not expect me to question it and if I ask for proof and you are unable to provide it, how can you then expect me to believe it, you should always question everything because if you just take the words of others as the truth we never move forward 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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