chartpolski 24,127 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 45 minutes ago, Goly said: Why are you demanding an enquiry now, couldn't possibly be because the Tories are making a song & dance over it in attempt to gain popularity, just a coincidence with the timing? What has come to light in the last few months? Again, what would another independent enquiry, which could cost well more than £200 million achieve when Jay basically covered everything? I think you and many are jumping all over Labour without mentioning the full context, I suppose all is fair in politics. I despise the Tory’s and Labour equally. I think I’ve made my point, comprehensively, why I’d like an independent inquiry. Have you not read the court transcripts that have come out in the last few days ? Information that had to be dragged out by F.O.I. requests. I know you like to take the opposite view to the general consensus, probably to get a rise, a bite , a wind up, I’ve replied , I think, courteously and honestly, but I think it’s far to serious an affair to be the subject of a wind up, so I’ll bow out now. Cheers. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,127 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Andy Burnham has broke with the Labour Party and demanded an inquiry. I wonder if he will be accused of “jumping on a far right bandwagon “ ? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 732 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I despise the Tory’s and Labour equally. I think I’ve made my point, comprehensively, why I’d like an independent inquiry. Have you not read the court transcripts that have come out in the last few days ? Information that had to be dragged out by F.O.I. requests. I know you like to take the opposite view to the general consensus, probably to get a rise, a bite , a wind up, I’ve replied , I think, courteously and honestly, but I think it’s far to serious an affair to be the subject of a wind up, so I’ll bow out now. Cheers. No, care to post, were they transcripts in a criminal court case? I'm not sure how that is going to change much but I'd like to see regardless. No, I just like to say how it is, this has become a frenzy just because Musk has jumped all over Tory propaganda and now it seems this publicity has got everyone wanting another enquiry, but if that's what the public wants, even if that risks putting kids at risk then so be it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,290 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 13 minutes ago, Goly said: No, care to post, were they transcripts in a criminal court case? I'm not sure how that is going to change much but I'd like to see regardless. No, I just like to say how it is, this has become a frenzy just because Musk has jumped all over Tory propaganda and now it seems this publicity has got everyone wanting another enquiry, but if that's what the public wants, even if that risks putting kids at risk then so be it. Goly you don't seem to get it do you,yes there is white paedos an paedo gangs,but these Muslims are epidemic,its not there colour its there culture,they marry young children an have sex with them when they hit puberty which is a guaranteed fact,also if you look into Pakistani culture its full of paedophilia,there's a documentary channel 4 did,its an epidemic in Pakistan fact,little boys getting drugged an buggered Who cares who brought it up the whole establishment are up to there eyes in paedophilia an that includes white men at the top. Scum the lot of them are. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 732 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Just now, Francie, said: Goly you don't seem to get it do you,yes there is white paedos an paedo gangs,but these Muslims are epidemic,its not there colour its there culture,they marry young children an have sex with them when they hit puberty which is a guaranteed fact,also if you look into Pakistani culture its full of paedophilia,there's a documentary channel 4 did,its an epidemic in Pakistan fact,little boys getting drugged an buggered Who cares who brought it up the whole establishment are up to there eyes in paedophilia an that includes white men at the top. Scum the lot of them are. Yes I do. Perhaps it is more rife percentage wise in the Muslim community, as far as I know there isn't enough data to prove that. But what will an enquiry revealing that achieve if the numbers are still relatively low? So, there we have it, it's rife across across the entire establishment, surely our aim should be to protect our children & vulnerable as much as possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,318 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 (edited) I can assure you in the sixties family retribution was taken against Pakistani men pestering girls. It was common. As was gang fights between Pakistani youths and white youths. They were organised in the annual holidays ( the Wakes weeks) in particular. Stabbings were commonplace. I wasn"t interested in any of that bollox. They obviously believed any girl showing flesh was fair game. They came from a culture which wrapped their women up in clothing and kept them on a short leash. But they understood violent retribution perfectly. As I say men would think nothing of giving a sex pest a slap. That first generation of immigrants were tiny,and submissive which helped. Lol But the opposite is true now. The police weren't interested in defending sex pests in those days. Society has changed. People keep themselves to themselves and have lost confidence in the police and in their communities. Most people live by the three monkeys ..see,hear and repeat no evil. Its a frightened moral vacuum. Edited January 9 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,026 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 41 minutes ago, Goly said: No, care to post, were they transcripts in a criminal court case? I'm not sure how that is going to change much but I'd like to see regardless. No, I just like to say how it is, this has become a frenzy just because Musk has jumped all over Tory propaganda and now it seems this publicity has got everyone wanting another enquiry, but if that's what the public wants, even if that risks putting kids at risk then so be it. i think its a joke someone from the usa like musk has to jump on it for anything to f***ing happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,930 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i think its a joke someone from the usa Genuine Question.........why aren't Pakistani grooming gangs a thing in the states,there's over 700k live in the states,but i haven't heard of grooming gangs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 732 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i think its a joke someone from the usa like musk has to jump on it for anything to f***ing happen Anything to happen? Paki's have been getting sent down since 2010, what's happening now mate? Musk has jumped over the Tory bollocks about an enquiry, an enquiry they have had 14 years to make and they have the cheek to demand one from Labour. Feck enquiries, I'd sooner see more action, now, wouldn't you? Edited January 9 by Goly 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,026 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, mackem said: Genuine Question.........why aren't Pakistani grooming gangs a thing in the states,there's over 700k live in the states,but i haven't heard of grooming gangs. there’s double that in the uk easy and it’s not even the size of one us state mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,026 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 2 minutes ago, Goly said: Anything to happen? Paki's have been getting sent down since 2010, what's happening now mate? Musk has jumped over the Tory bollocks about an enquiry, an enquiry they have had 14 years to make and they have the cheek to demand one from Labour. Feck enquiries, I'd sooner see more action, now, wouldn't you? one or ten is nothing though mate a few at the bottom and brush it under the carpet is what happened Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 732 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 Just now, mC HULL said: one or ten is nothing though mate a few at the bottom and brush it under the carpet is what happened We know that, what will another enquiry achieve? Wouldn't you sooner see time and money put in to protecting our kids in future? Didn't the Jay report cover all this, would spending hundreds of millions of pounds to shockingly reveal that Paki men were involved, something that we've already fecking known for decades? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,930 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: there’s double that in the uk easy and it’s not even the size of one us state mate That's a community size and a geography lesson rolled into one mC,but it doesn't answer the question,why no grooming gangs (or at least no mention of them)in the USA? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,026 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, Goly said: We know that, what will another enquiry achieve? Wouldn't you sooner see time and money put in to protecting our kids in future? Didn't the Jay report cover all this, would spending hundreds of millions of pounds to shockingly reveal that Paki men were involved, something that we've already fecking known for decades? more find the ones that covered it up jail them the police social services mps start at the f***ing top 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,127 Posted January 9 Report Share Posted January 9 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: more find the ones that covered it up jail them the police social services mps start at the f***ing top That’s exactly it mate , the Jay report didn’t look into the cover ups and corruption. Hopefully a new targeted inquiry will, but it goes so deep I fear a cover up of the cover ups ! Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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