Is Farage right to distance himself from Tommy Robinson ?.

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2 hours ago, WILF said:

Trump is going the have the governor of California and the mayor of Los Angeles guts for garters !

The Mayor defunded the fire department last year to the tune of 10 million dollars…..and 23000 acres went up in smoke this week !…..they can’t control it !

The woke lefty’s are getting exposed all over the world !

No words,realises she has tucked up,and does a runner in panic=Not fit for the job.

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Can someone explain something about this enquiry vote yesterday . What I've read was that their was also a bill on the vote aswel as the enquiry,  why would you have two separate things effected by the same vote . I dint understand how this works 

[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

15 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Can someone explain something about this enquiry vote yesterday . What I've read was that their was also a bill on the vote aswel as the enquiry,  why would you have two separate things effected by the same vote . I dint understand how this works 

My understanding is the bill that was being pushed through yesterday was part of the original Jay report and would have stalled if a full inquiry had to be undertaken, so Starmer used it basically as smoke screen.    

The more I delve into the scandal and the way its being handle the more angry I get. How the hell can it be accepted that Starmer can force his MP's to vote against anything that don't fit in with his agenda with the threat of removing them from their post.

We have a dictatorship government in charge of this country pure and simple.

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Labour are just hoping it will all go away. Rotherham has just been put forward for the accolade of Children's capital of culture. Talk about rubbing salt in the wounds of those who were affected by the towns CSE scandal beggars belief . This is the madness ordinary working class folk of my town are up against and it's partly their own fault by voting 3 Labour MPs into power. 

 

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1 hour ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

My understanding is the bill that was being pushed through yesterday was part of the original Jay report and would have stalled if a full inquiry had to be undertaken, so Starmer used it basically as smoke screen.    

The more I delve into the scandal and the way its being handle the more angry I get. How the hell can it be accepted that Starmer can force his MP's to vote against anything that don't fit in with his agenda with the threat of removing them from their post.

We have a dictatorship government in charge of this country pure and simple.

As I mentioned in the post the other week, what is another enquiry going to achieve? Guess how many were brought the justice for Hillsborough, Grenfell, the infected blood scandal, Post Office scandal, etc, a grand total of one person.

[Goly 322]

Meanwhile in the fashionable month of attacking Labour, some promising news perhaps?

UK to introduce 'world first' sanctions regime to target people smugglers

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1 hour ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

My understanding is the bill that was being pushed through yesterday was part of the original Jay report and would have stalled if a full inquiry had to be undertaken, so Starmer used it basically as smoke screen.    

The more I delve into the scandal and the way its being handle the more angry I get. How the hell can it be accepted that Starmer can force his MP's to vote against anything that don't fit in with his agenda with the threat of removing them from their post.

We have a dictatorship government in charge of this country pure and simple.

starmer has got them by the nuts if they dont vote with him there out ..and there 80k job is done ,its S SIMPLE AS THAT ......

[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

16 minutes ago, Goly said:

As I mentioned in the post the other week, what is another enquiry going to achieve? Guess how many were brought the justice for Hillsborough, Grenfell, the infected blood scandal, Post Office scandal, etc, a grand total of one person.

I did touch on this when you asked on Tuesday, but just to add the original enquiry only covered 6 areas that have been effected by this horrendous child abuse leaving 44 not investigated for a start.

I could go on as there are some many reasons why but you appear to flip flop a bit going from shooting people involved to apathy on the subject, so how would you suggest going forward?

And just so you know where I stand I feel very strongly about this subject and I am happy to discuss it but not prepared to get involved in any petty debating I see this issue as having no grey area.       

[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

8 minutes ago, riohog said:

starmer has got them by the nuts if they dont vote with him there out ..and there 80k job is done ,its S SIMPLE AS THAT ......

I know that just struggle that as a nation we accept that as OK.

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6 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I did touch on this when you asked on Tuesday, but just to add the original enquiry only covered 6 areas that have been effected by this horrendous child abuse leaving 44 not investigated for a start.

I could go on as there are some many reasons why but you appear to flip flop a bit going from shooting people involved to apathy on the subject, so how would you suggest going forward?

And just so you know where I stand I feel very strongly about this subject and I am happy to discuss it but not prepared to get involved in any petty debating I see this issue as having no grey area.       

So you're saying the other 44 areas have not had any investigations and are clear regions of child grooming gangs? As this only just recently come out in the light as I never saw you asking for enquiries when the Tories were in power?

What would I suggest going forward? Strengthen our police forces, improve social care, stricter sentences, more transparency, etc. What would you say should be done?

Edited 9 hours ago by Goly

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1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

I know that just struggle that as a nation we accept that as OK.

its a bad do  ,but its a closed shop we can do f allabout it

[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

Just now, Goly said:

So you're saying the other 44 areas have not had any investigations and are clear regions of child grooming gangs? As this only just recently come out in the light as I never saw you asking for enquiries when the Tories were in power?

What would I suggest going forward? Strengthen our police forces, improve social care, etc. What would you say should be done?

Yes the other areas were not on the Jay report so no investigation and child rape gangs have been a issue for years. You do not know what I've done regarding this issue so you have no right to say that.

I normally find your reincarnations and your ability to flip flop until you get a bite amusing at times but on this subject I'm not prepared to be drawn as I  believe there are  NO EXCUSES and NO GREY AREAS, politics should be left out of this, these are our children being abused.     

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20 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Yes the other areas were not on the Jay report so no investigation and child rape gangs have been a issue for years. You do not know what I've done regarding this issue so you have no right to say that.

I normally find your reincarnations and your ability to flip flop until you get a bite amusing at times but on this subject I'm not prepared to be drawn as I  believe there are  NO EXCUSES and NO GREY AREAS, politics should be left out of this, these are our children being abused.     

So, you don't know if these other areas were affected by grooming gangs, I suppose it would be worth a look at past reports. I do know you haven't been very vocal on here, I presume Oldham council have been asking for a national enquiry longer than Labour have been in power?

I'm not looking for a bite, I just think you must be a little naive if you are expecting a grand revelation, it as been known already for decades what was happening.

Labour are a pile, but it seems this is just another stick to beat them with, again, where was the Tory national enquiry?

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[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

10 minutes ago, Goly said:

So, you don't know if these other areas were affected by grooming gangs, I suppose it would be worth a look at past reports. I do know you haven't been very vocal on here, I presume Oldham council have been asking for a national enquiry longer than Labour have been in power?

I'm not looking for a bite, I just think you must be a little naive if you are expecting a grand revelation, it as been known already for decades what was happening.

Labour are a pile, but it seems this is just another stick to beat them with, again, where was the Tory national enquiry?

OK you got me, so one more time.

The one I have some personnel knowledge of and I apologise I wasn't more vocal on here at the time and kept you updated! ................Bristol  Hotel rape exposed Bristol child sex abuse ring - BBC News inquiry was led by the police, not independent. 

 

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5 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

OK you got me, so one more time.

The one I have some personnel knowledge of and I apologise I wasn't more vocal on here at the time and kept you updated! ................Bristol  Hotel rape exposed Bristol child sex abuse ring - BBC News inquiry was led by the police, not independent. 

 

These were jailed, justice was served, or am I missing something? Grooming gangs and paedophiles are still out there, that's why we need to strengthen our police force and improve our social care.