Is Farage right to distance himself from Tommy Robinson ?.

[Goly 1,080]

17 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

One of the major factors that contributes to Pakistanis being able to regard our children as animals to be used and abused is because useful idiots say things like above ! 
 

“Let’s forget the hundreds and hundreds of Pakistani men gang raping our kids on a daily basis, no, much better to look over here at 2 old white beasts that got jailed 13 years ago ! “ 

A fully paid up member of the British cuck club looking for excuses for the people who have helped reduce your nation to the 3rd world…..good man, go down the corner shop and get Ali to give you a pat on the head 

You're the idiot who is blaming it all on race and culture when the reality is, all races, all cultures contain paedophiles. Who's saying ignore anything? You're just obsessed because of race, nothing more. Each and everyone should be imprisoned or deported.

Aren't you the fat cuck who ran away from THL when you was rumbled for being a nonces mate?  Anyway, talking about cucks, still looking for black kids to improve your football team you absolute walloper.

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[WILF 47,444]

7 minutes ago, Goly said:

You're the idiot who is blaming it all on race and culture when the reality is, all races, all cultures contain paedophiles.  Each and everyone should be imprisoned or deported.

Aren't you the fat cuck who ran away from THL when you was rumbled for being a nonces mate?  Anyway, talking about cucks, still looking for black kids to improve your football team you absolute walloper.

Ali is waiting for you, run along ! lol 

[Goly 1,080]

13 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The amendment to the Schools bill was the nuclear option to force the Labour government into granting a national independent inquiry into specifically Pakistani grooming gangs.

If Starmer had granted that inquiry the amendment would have been dropped.

He refused and put his MP’s on a three line whip meaning anyone who didn’t vote against the amendment would be thrown out of the Labour Party.

Now it appears HE didn’t vote against it, he 

ABSTAINED !

Why ? Well the only reason I can think of is when anyone accused him of voting against an inquiry he can say he DIDN’T vote against it !

Slimy cowardly devious b*****d.

Cheers.

What good is another enquiry when you haven't implemented the recommendations of a previous enquiry? Not actioning the recommendations put children at risk.

An attempt to force another enquiry would have derailed the bill that actually helps to protect kids.

How about an enquiry into why the recommendations were ignored?

[Goly 1,080]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

Ali is waiting for you, run along ! lol 

Kunta Kinte will be along shortly for training, you'll get that league title in no time. Lol

You're an insult to Ireland.. hahahaha

[chartpolski 24,363]

8 minutes ago, Goly said:

What good is another enquiry when you haven't implemented the recommendations of a previous enquiry? Not actioning the recommendations put children at risk.

An attempt to force another enquiry would have derailed the bill that actually helps to protect kids.

How about an enquiry into why the recommendations were ignored?

How would an independent inquiry derail the Schools Bill , they are completely separate. Or are you talking about the Jay inquiry which is long finished and her recommendations are finally if belatedly being implemented.

The schools bill is to reorganise the education system, nothing to do with grooming gangs.

The Jay inquiry was a wide ranging inquiry into child abuse focusing on Saville, Cyril Smith, the Church, the BBC etc and hardly mentioned grooming gangs.

People want an inquiry into the grooming/rape scandal as they are finally getting information from court transcripts etc and are appalled at the vile abuse and the cover ups and want those that were complicit in the cover ups named.

Hardly outrageous or “far right” to want to know who these enablers are.

Just my opinion, but I think many agree.

Cheers.

[Goly 1,080]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

How would an independent inquiry derail the Schools Bill , they are completely separate. Or are you talking about the Jay inquiry which is long finished and her recommendations are finally if belatedly being implemented.

The schools bill is to reorganise the education system, nothing to do with grooming gangs.

The Jay inquiry was a wide ranging inquiry into child abuse focusing on Saville, Cyril Smith, the Church, the BBC etc and hardly mentioned grooming gangs.

People want an inquiry into the grooming/rape scandal as they are finally getting information from court transcripts etc and are appalled at the vile abuse and the cover ups and want those that were complicit in the cover ups named.

Hardly outrageous or “far right” to want to know who these enablers are.

Just my opinion, but I think many agree.

Cheers.

I'm talking about the independent inquiry on child sexual abuse led by Jay. Why are the Tories demanding another enquiry when they didn't even implement the recommendations from the previous enquiry? Why spend billions on a new enquiry to basically go through what's already been covered? 

[WILF 47,444]

26 minutes ago, Goly said:

Kunta Kinte will be along shortly for training, you'll get that league title in no time. Lol

You're an insult to Ireland.. hahahaha

Lame !……see you thought to yourself “I’ll have a little wind up and play with this geezer for a while, get him at it”…..but I did it to you in 6 sentences ! 

That’s called intellect…..you can look it up, get Ali to explain if you struggle ! lol 

 

[Goly 1,080]

Just now, WILF said:

Lame !……see you thought to yourself “I’ll have a little wind up and play with this geezer for a while, get him at it”…..but I did it to you in 6 sentences ! 

That’s called intellect…..you can look it up, get Ali to explain if you struggle ! lol 

 

I had you running away in a huff, I win, I always do. The fact that you're having to explain away your loss tells it all. Lol

 

[chartpolski 24,363]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

I'm talking about the independent inquiry on child sexual abuse led by Jay. Why are the Tories demanding another enquiry when they didn't even implement the recommendations from the previous enquiry? Why spend billions on a new enquiry to basically go through what's already been covered? 

As I said, the Jay inquiry barely touched on Pakistani grooming gangs, and it has since come to light that it’s far more widespread than thought when Jay did her inquiry. What I and many more would like is an independent inquiry focused solely on this aspect of child rape and who covered it up.

It wouldn’t cost billions, that’s an exaggeration, of course the Jay inquiry was vastly expensive, £200 million and took seven years, but an independent inquiry that’s being asked for now would be far more focused and would be cheaper and quicker, although cost shouldn’t come into it when protecting childrens life’s is the aim.

Anyhow, we are starting to go round in circles; I’d like an inquiry; you wouldnt.

I can respect your opinion without necessarily agreeing with it.

Cheers.

[mackay 3,400]

3 hours ago, Goly said:

That's it, people are now just jumping on the bandwagon to bash Labour. I suspect Oldham council haven't just all of a sudden started asking for an enquiry, so, where was the enquiry from the Tories? What are we missing that we don't already know? If it's still going on then it's not an enquiry we need, it's investigation by our police forces! 

I'll happily and readily jump on the bandwagon. Do you really not get it?. It's not just the systematic abuse and rape of those kids, it's the total cover up and failings of the people in power who turned a blind eye to this scandal. Trust me, I would hang the bstards who raped these girls readily. But strangely I would consider worse for the absolute fecking scumbags who aided and abbetted by turning a blind eye, and that goes right to the top like that geenie eyed bstard Brown.  You could also argue Blair was complicit due to his come one come fcuking all open door policies.  An independent enquiry is an absolute must and anyone from council worker to mp involved should face serious jail time.

[Goly 1,080]

32 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

As I said, the Jay inquiry barely touched on Pakistani grooming gangs, and it has since come to light that it’s far more widespread than thought when Jay did her inquiry. What I and many more would like is an independent inquiry focused solely on this aspect of child rape and who covered it up.

It wouldn’t cost billions, that’s an exaggeration, of course the Jay inquiry was vastly expensive, £200 million and took seven years, but an independent inquiry that’s being asked for now would be far more focused and would be cheaper and quicker, although cost shouldn’t come into it when protecting childrens life’s is the aim.

Anyhow, we are starting to go round in circles; I’d like an inquiry; you wouldnt.

I can respect your opinion without necessarily agreeing with it.

Cheers.

Why are you demanding an enquiry now, couldn't possibly be because the Tories are making a song & dance over it in attempt to gain popularity, just a coincidence with the timing? What has come to light in the last few months? Again, what would another independent enquiry, which could cost well more than £200 million achieve when Jay basically covered everything? 

I think you and many are jumping all over Labour without mentioning the full context, I suppose all is fair in politics.

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[Goly 1,080]

2 minutes ago, mackay said:

I'll happily and readily jump on the bandwagon. Do you really not get it?. It's not just the systematic abuse and rape of those kids, it's the total cover up and failings of the people in power who turned a blind eye to this scandal. Trust me, I would hang the bstards who raped these girls readily. But strangely I would consider worse for the absolute fecking scumbags who aided and abbetted by turning a blind eye, and that goes right to the top like that geenie eyed bstard Brown.  You could also argue Blair was complicit due to his come one come fcuking all open door policies.  An independent enquiry is an absolute must and anyone from council worker to mp involved should face serious jail time.

So, this is only just breaking news is it? You haven't known about any coverings up until recently? Funny that, because I have been reading about cover ups for donkeys years.

[Goly 1,080]

So, it does touch on grooming gangs? A quick glance of her report.

"This investigation considered areas which have not already been the subject of well-publicised investigations of child sexual exploitation by networks (such as Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford). Those cases have been examined in detail through the criminal courts, as well as in serious case reviews and other inquiries and investigations. Building on previous analyses, this investigation focussed on a range of geographical areas as well as responses to the sexual exploitation of a number of individual children, examining recent and current practice in order to better understand this insidious form of abuse of children. It has demonstrated that child sexual exploitation by groups or networks is widespread. It is not a problem faced by a small number of towns in the Midlands and the north of England." 

[mackay 3,400]

5 minutes ago, Goly said:

So, this is only just breaking news is it? You haven't known about any coverings up until recently? Funny that, because I have been reading about cover ups for donkeys years.

I've known like many people about the cover ups. The reason we're discussing it now is that it's in the spotlight, and, brought into the spotlight by a man who didn't need to give a shit about it, but did. I don't care how we got here, I'm just glad that we are, and if it's giving those guilty of neglect sleepless nights as to their future even better.  A full enquiry, bring it on.

[Goly 1,080]

Just now, mackay said:

I've known like many people about the cover ups. The reason we're discussing it now is that it's in the spotlight, and, brought into the spotlight by a man who didn't need to give a shit about it, but did. I don't care how we got here, I'm just glad that we are, and if it's giving those guilty of neglect sleepless nights as to their future even better.  A full enquiry, bring it on.

No, the reason it's being talked about now is because the Tories have recently brought it up and Musk and a few others have jumped all over it, pure & simple. But, if the public demands another enquiry, give it to them, it won't tell us anything that the previous enquiry didn't tell us but so be it.