Is Farage right to distance himself from Tommy Robinson ?.

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TBH all what's going on now with these calls for enquiries and such like has just become a game of ping pong for the political partys and like i have said before non of them giving a shite about the victims and their families. 

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1 minute ago, tatsblisters said:

TBH all what's going on now with these calls for enquiries and such like has just become a game of ping pong for the political partys and like i have said before non of them giving a shite about the victims and their families. 

That's it, people are now just jumping on the bandwagon to bash Labour. I suspect Oldham council haven't just all of a sudden started asking for an enquiry, so, where was the enquiry from the Tories? What are we missing that we don't already know? If it's still going on then it's not an enquiry we need, it's investigation by our police forces! 

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4 minutes ago, Goly said:

That's it, people are now just jumping on the bandwagon to bash Labour. I suspect Oldham council haven't just all of a sudden started asking for an enquiry, so, where was the enquiry from the Tories? What are we missing that we don't already know? If it's still going on then it's not an enquiry we need, it's investigation by our police forces! 

Band Wagon, Jesus christ.............the police in some cases have been allegedly negligent and have tried to cover it up and you want them to lead an investigation? And that is your answer as to why a national enquiry is needed.

The enquiry would then be "independent" highlighting any wrong doing by the head of the CPP's at the time Starmer, the police, councillors, Labour, Tories, Social workers etc etc. You are aware in some cases it is reported councillors were actually involved in the gangs, police were arresting parents that tried to remove their children from danger and forcing morning after pills down them, Labour MP's reported to have asked other MP's to not mention the ethnicity of the rapists ? The list of allegations are shocking. 

You have got to be on a wind up? 

Im defo out now your seriously harming my blood pressure levels.   

 

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11 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Band Wagon, Jesus christ.............the police in some cases have been allegedly negligent and have tried to cover it up and you want them to lead an investigation? And that is your answer as to why a national enquiry is needed.

The enquiry would then be "independent" highlighting any wrong doing by the head of the CPP's at the time Starmer, the police, councillors, Labour, Tories, Social workers etc etc. You are aware in some cases it is reported councillors were actually involved in the gangs, police were arresting parents that tried to remove their children from danger and forcing morning after pills down them, Labour MP's reported to have asked other MP's to not mention the ethnicity of the rapists ? The list of allegations are shocking. 

You have got to be on a wind up? 

Im defo out now your seriously harming my blood pressure levels.   

 

Yes, bandwagon, where have the calls for an enquiry been these last few decades? Again, we know how the police handled it, this is hardly a new revelation, SYP ought to be ashamed of themselves, so yes, an investigation is needed, which also includes members of these police forces! But don't try and pretend nothing was ever done, even SYP were making convictions decades ago. You are rearing points up that have been suspected and known for decades in these regions. Ok, so let's have an enquiry only for the establishment to come out smelling of roses, just like they did with Hillsborough, Grenfell, the blood scandal, Post Office.

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2 hours ago, Goly said:

Meanwhile in the fashionable month of attacking Labour, some promising news perhaps?

UK to introduce 'world first' sanctions regime to target people smugglers

NEWS.SKY.COM

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The government said it would starve smuggling gangs of "illicit finance fuelling their operations", with Foreign...

 

Translated means:

”If you earn an extra £100 on eBay we want a full accounting record of your whole life to make sure we have robbed you of every penny…..oh yeah, something, something people smugglers…..errr….something something organised crime…..boats ?…..what boats ?”  

Edited January 9 by WILF

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43 minutes ago, Goly said:

That's it, people are now just jumping on the bandwagon to bash Labour. I suspect Oldham council haven't just all of a sudden started asking for an enquiry, so, where was the enquiry from the Tories? What are we missing that we don't already know? If it's still going on then it's not an enquiry we need, it's investigation by our police forces! 

The police are complicit, the tribes have been in charge of the police to all intents and purposes since the Lawrence witch hunt.

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6 minutes ago, WILF said:

The police are complicit, the tribes have been in charge of the police to all intents and purposes since the Lawrence witch hunt.

Hardly a new revelation is it, we have known about certain members of the police brushing it under the carpet for decades.

Anyway, as for Labour blocking an investigation in to grooming gangs, that's not really the truth, a little research shows they have blocked an amendment to a child protection bill that would have made things much worse for our children. So, we could say the Tories are calling for our children to be put at risk in an attempt to score brownie points against Labour.

Edited January 9 by Goly

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We still don’t know cause of grooming gangs, says scandal reporter

WWW.THETIMES.COM

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Andrew Norfolk, The Times journalist who first revealed the abuse in 2011, says there needs to be proper...

 

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Their should have been a national public inquiry when places like my home town of Rotherham came to light years ago but those in power in Rotherham were too buisey condemning the EDL that organised the biggest march my town has ever seen and attended by me and a lot of folk I know. 

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1 minute ago, Goly said:

Hardly a new revelation is it, we have known about certain members of the police brushing it under the carpet for decades.

Anyway, as for Labour blocking an investigation in to grooming gangs, that's not really the truth is it, a little research shows they have blocked an amendment to a child protection bill that would have made things much worse for our children.

Neither party want a full, unfettered investigation…..the police don’t want it, the civil service don’t want it, social services don’t want….no state agency in any form wants it.

The old communications directors must be burning the midnight oil at the moment trying to work out the non words, rhetoric and bullshit to sound like they all care and “really want to do something” without actually being able to be held to account and made to do something……..smoke & mirrors on overtime ! 
 

These people are all complicit, period !…..from your main party voter to the local activist to the local councillor, right up to every party leader there has been for the last 60 plus years !

Lad like me may not have had the word skills or the education but we have been telling everyone about these tribes for longer than I have been alive ! 
We all knew, everyone f***ing knows ! 

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4 minutes ago, Goly said:

Hardly a new revelation is it, we have known about certain members of the police brushing it under the carpet for decades.

Anyway, as for Labour blocking an investigation in to grooming gangs, that's not really the truth, a little research shows they have blocked an amendment to a child protection bill that would have made things much worse for our children. So, we could say the Tories are calling for our children to be put at risk in an attempt to score brownie points against Labour.

 

On 07/01/2025 at 10:35, Goly said:

I've not been following it properly, why all the noise now when this has been known for years? Has anything new come to light? 

For someone who knew so little about it on Tuesday its pretty spectacular how you've become a expert in two days. Perhaps you should head a inquiry! 

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4 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

 

For someone who knew so little about it on Tuesday its pretty spectacular how you've become a expert in two days. Perhaps you should head a inquiry! 

The irony coming from a man that hasn't mentioned it until the Tories decided to stoke the flames recently! 

Where have you been these last few decades, you're just now jumping all over it because the Tories have attempted to stoke the flames in an attempt to attack Labour, it's clearly working.

The Tories have approached this via a wrecking amendment, on a child wellbeing bill of any. They have done this in an attempt to force Labour to "reject" an enquiry, rather than a well meaning attempt to get justice for those poor girls. For the Tories this is just political ammunition.

Edited January 9 by Goly

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One of the most tragic aspects of the whole situation is  ordinary people from Rochdale , Rotherham etc felt so powerless that they  allowed it to happen under their noses and looked the other way.

I might be seeing the past through Rose tinted glasses but I'm sure communities in the past ( men) would have those animals in their place. Where I grew up in the fifties there was  community justice. A man knocking f**k out of his wife got a visit from the wife's relations or neighbours. Sons would look after mothers and their sisters. Now people call the police if they've had a dispute with a neighbour. I'm sure the police were called and concerns ab out the girls raised. But it was considered to much of a nettle for the police to grasp so they ignored it. Perhaps we are all guilty of fear and complacency.

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Just now, jukel123 said:

One of the most tragic aspects of the whole situation is  ordinary people from Rochdale , Rotherham etc felt so powerless that they  allowed it to happen under their noses and looked the other way.

I might be seeing the past through Rose tinted glasses but I'm sure communities in the past ( men) would have those animals in their place. Where I grew up in the fifties there was  community justice. A man knocking f**k out of his wife got a visit from the wife's relations or neighbours. Sons would look after mothers and their sisters. Now people call the police if they've had a dispute with a neighbour. I'm sure the police were called and concerns ab out the girls raised. But it was considered to much of a nettle for the police to grasp so they ignored it. Perhaps we are all guilty of fear and complacency.

you couldn’t mate instantly locked up ratially motivated charges people did and got jailed they got protected and remember most have men from out a town  will turn up protect them it wasn’t isn’t as simple as that 

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6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

One of the most tragic aspects of the whole situation is  ordinary people from Rochdale , Rotherham etc felt so powerless that they  allowed it to happen under their noses and looked the other way.

I might be seeing the past through Rose tinted glasses but I'm sure communities in the past ( men) would have those animals in their place. Where I grew up in the fifties there was  community justice. A man knocking f**k out of his wife got a visit from the wife's relations or neighbours. Sons would look after mothers and their sisters. Now people call the police if they've had a dispute with a neighbour. I'm sure the police were called and concerns ab out the girls raised. But it was considered to much of a nettle for the police to grasp so they ignored it. Perhaps we are all guilty of fear and complacency.

No disrespect mate but you don't realise how these Pakistani grooming gangs with family members who had high ranking job's on the Labour Council were protected until the shit hit the fan with the Casey report.