“Well, it’s better than……”

[WILF 46,875]

Was there ever a more ridiculous statement than:

”Well, it’s better than (insert place here)” when speaking about decimated towns and communities in the U.K. ?

I just had a flying visit back to my old town, 2 years since I was there and oh my word !!!!

The town used to have every little shop going, fishmonger, sports shop and shoe repairs, hardware/ironmonger, fruit and veg, clothes, butchers, florists….everything.

It was very working class but British, locals and ex Londoners displaced after the war.

But it was well kept, decent folks, access to countryside….just ordinary and ok.

I went for a walk Friday……Jesus Christ, it’s like one of those zombie movies.

Rows of closed shops, boarded up pubs, piles of debris and filth and rubbish.

Shops that have been there 70 years or more closing down.

Mountains of junk behind fences, filthy broken pavements.

Now it’s all nail bars, barbers shops, takeaways, phones shops and the cherry on the top is a f***ing great mosque slap bang in the middle housed in what used to be a big Methodist church !! 
 

3rd world types all over the show, soulless brick boxes built on every available space to house them all.

And you talk to people and they say “Well, it’s not as bad as Dagenham” or some such nonsense……f***ing do me in, it’s like saying cancer isn’t as bad as being burned alive !…..f**k off !! It’s all f***ing terrible you moron ! 
 

I know my town is a microcosm of the wider U.K., I see it on various YouTube documentary’s (joe fish is a good one) and the story of my town is the story of everywhere……and people say the same things “it could be worse” !! Yeah ? How ? 
 

This ain’t rural Kazakhstan, this was once the greatest nation on earth and we are f***ing dead ?…..if that ain’t bad I’d like to know what constitutes bad ? 

heartbreaking !

Edited December 30, 2024 by WILF

[chartpolski 23,670]

54 minutes ago, WILF said:

I just had a flying visit back to my old town, 2 years since I was there and oh my word !!!!

The town used to have every little shop going, fishmonger, sports shop and shoe repairs, hardware/ironmonger, fruit and veg, clothes, butchers, florists….everything.

 

Did you travel back in a De Lorean, driven by a bloke with wild eyes and even wilder hair Wilfy mate ?

Two years ? All the high streets and estate shopping centres haven’t  been like that for the twenty years I’ve been back home.

Turkish barbers, Vietnamese nail bars , vape shops, American candy shops, charity shops, that’s all there is now.

Cheers.

[.357shooter 1,218]

you forgot all the chicken burger joints that somehow stay open when no other buissness can stay afloat.

[Goly 238]

I agree with Charts, plenty have areas have been slowly degrading for decades, even areas with low immigration, mining villages & towns for instance. We are now at the lowest point yet but perhaps not as much to come.

[Bush Rummager 4,657]

We called in at Cleethorpes recently and my daughter got this in her happy meal.. place gone down shitter big time..

[iworkwhippets 12,596]

And they have closed tingles massage parlour in Fenton stoke on Trent, the b*****ds , not that I've ever been at those prices , just saying like 

[mackem 26,550]

3 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said:

And they have closed tingles massage parlour in Fenton stoke on Trent,

That's not a happy ending.

[WILF 46,875]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

Did you travel back in a De Lorean, driven by a bloke with wild eyes and even wilder hair Wilfy mate ?

Two years ? All the high streets and estate shopping centres haven’t  been like that for the twenty years I’ve been back home.

Turkish barbers, Vietnamese nail bars , vape shops, American candy shops, charity shops, that’s all there is now.

Cheers.

Absolutely mate, it was going badly wrong 10 years ago but in the last two the mosque turned up and the degradation is on another level….it was a case of just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, it just go so much worse.

[chartpolski 23,670]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Absolutely mate, it was going badly wrong 10 years ago but in the last two the mosque turned up and the degradation is on another level….it was a case of just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse, it just go so much worse.

What I can’t understand is everyone knows that lots of these shops are used for money laundering and employing illegals but nothing is done about it.

Cheers.

[Goly 238]

Mass immigration of the poorest has certainly not helped matters but rough villages like mine have been in ruin without much immigration, poverty is the major culprit in my opinion.

[jukel123 8,084]

1 hour ago, Goly said:

Mass immigration of the poorest has certainly not helped matters but rough villages like mine have been in ruin without much immigration, poverty is the major culprit in my 

Poverty caused by tory austerity. A deliberate assault on UK citizens.

The UK spends a fifth less on health when compared to similar countries like Germany ,Spain and France.

That adds up to a sicker, population who die earlier and whose babies weigh less and have a shorter life expectancy than other comparative countries.

The average UK citizen spends around 32% of their income on housing . It's 20% in the rest of the EU.

UK Workers have f**k all in the way off sickness benefits and employment protection.

Our economic model..rampant, f**k the weak  and damn the poor capitalism is modelled on  that of the USA's. The media constantly report on news from America and curiously ignore what's happening in Europe.

In fact we have become a vassal state of uncle Sam.

The unions have been castrated by constant attacks from big money interests. Stats show the stronger the unions ( 90%) membership in some European countries) the richer citizens are.

No matter who we vote we are only voting for  another beating. Policies are decided by big business and the media which is exclusively owned by the rich.

Starmer met with Rupert Murdoch numerous times before the election. Why? To ask what policies he could put in his manifesto. That's why the manifesto is so shit.

Add in family break up, drugs, alcoholism, mental ill health, crumbling infrastructure, a rigid class system, a f****d up transport system, a piss poor pension and social care system, feral teenagers and you have modern Britain.

People focus on immigration as the cause of failing Britain. But that's a distraction encouraged by the money men.

Yes there are black and brown ghettos in mostly the old industrial cities and I feel sorry for anybody caught up in failed multiculturalism. I've lived in Rochdale!

 But the tensions that exist were caused decades ago by immigration from former British territories. The ghettos don't impact on most people.

Some say Reform is the answer. But I don't agree. Farage and Tice are very shady characters,  the same and maybe worse than the rest of them.

Whoever we vote for we get a bunch of lying self seeking b*****ds.

Modern Britain. A home for heroes?

No, a home for brow beaten, exhausted, fundamentally decent people who are led by the nose by big business and globalists.

Before I'm attacked as a commie and a rich man's car scratcher, let me say this. I just want what people have in the rest of developed Europe and in particular the nordic countries: a fairer slice of the cake,  and not this constant feeling that we are having the piss ripped out of us.

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by jukel123

[low plains drifter 10,553]

Brendan piped up, I'm morbidly obese with diabetes and heart disease, but at least I'm not as fat as Peter from Rathmore Gardens 

[Goly 238]

33 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Poverty caused by tory austerity. A deliberate assault on UK citizens.

The UK spends a fifth less on health when compared to similar countries like Germany ,Spain and France.

That adds up to a sicker, population who die earlier and whose babies weigh less and have a shorter life expectancy than other comparative countries.

The average UK citizen spends around 32% of their income on housing . It's 20% in the rest of the EU.

UK Workers have f**k all in the way off sickness benefits and employment protection.

Our economic model..rampant, f**k the weak  and damn the poor capitalism is modelled on  that of the USA's. The media constantly report on news from America and curiously ignore what's happening in Europe.

In fact we have become a vassal state of uncle Sam.

The unions have been castrated by constant attacks from big money interests. Stats show the stronger the unions ( 90%) membership in some European countries) the richer citizens are.

No matter who we vote we are only voting for  another beating. Policies are decided by big business and the media which is exclusively owned by the rich.

Starmer met with Rupert Murdoch numerous times before the election. Why? To ask what policies he could put in his manifesto. That's why the manifesto is so shit.

Add in family break up, drugs, alcoholism, mental ill health, crumbling infrastructure, a rigid class system, a f****d up transport system, a piss poor pension and social care system, feral teenagers and you have modern Britain.

People focus on immigration as the cause of failing Britain. But that's a distraction encouraged by the money men.

Yes there are black and brown ghettos in mostly the old industrial cities and I feel sorry for anybody caught up in failed multiculturalism. I've lived in Rochdale!

 But the tensions that exist were caused decades ago by immigration from former British territories. The ghettos don't impact on most people.

Some say Reform is the answer. But I don't agree. Farage and Tice are very shady characters,  the same and maybe worse than the rest of them.

Whoever we vote for we get a bunch of lying self seeking b*****ds.

Modern Britain. A home for heroes?

No, a home for brow beaten, exhausted, fundamentally decent people who are led by the nose by big business and globalists.

Before I'm attacked as a commie and a rich man's car scratcher, let me say this. I just want what people have in the rest of developed Europe and in particular the nordic countries: a fairer slice of the cake,  and not this constant feeling that we are having the piss ripped out of us.

 

Great post and agree, but, I'd like to give Farage the benefit of the doubt and at least see if he would attempt to get us out of this mess.

[Lenmcharristar 9,802]

The problem with the unions is, theyre fulla lazy b*****ds and now been hijacked by the left wing, they helped ruin the british economy by the thatll do attitude, never go above and beyond, started in the 70s in the car industry. All the leaders took bribes to sign your rights away and its still that way in jaguar/landrover, should be world beating but ended up unreliable pure shite

[mC HULL 12,548]

54 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Poverty caused by tory austerity. A deliberate assault on UK citizens.

The UK spends a fifth less on health when compared to similar countries like Germany ,Spain and France.

That adds up to a sicker, population who die earlier and whose babies weigh less and have a shorter life expectancy than other comparative countries.

The average UK citizen spends around 32% of their income on housing . It's 20% in the rest of the EU.

UK Workers have f**k all in the way off sickness benefits and employment protection.

Our economic model..rampant, f**k the weak  and damn the poor capitalism is modelled on  that of the USA's. The media constantly report on news from America and curiously ignore what's happening in Europe.

In fact we have become a vassal state of uncle Sam.

The unions have been castrated by constant attacks from big money interests. Stats show the stronger the unions ( 90%) membership in some European countries) the richer citizens are.

No matter who we vote we are only voting for  another beating. Policies are decided by big business and the media which is exclusively owned by the rich.

Starmer met with Rupert Murdoch numerous times before the election. Why? To ask what policies he could put in his manifesto. That's why the manifesto is so shit.

Add in family break up, drugs, alcoholism, mental ill health, crumbling infrastructure, a rigid class system, a f****d up transport system, a piss poor pension and social care system, feral teenagers and you have modern Britain.

People focus on immigration as the cause of failing Britain. But that's a distraction encouraged by the money men.

Yes there are black and brown ghettos in mostly the old industrial cities and I feel sorry for anybody caught up in failed multiculturalism. I've lived in Rochdale!

 But the tensions that exist were caused decades ago by immigration from former British territories. The ghettos don't impact on most people.

Some say Reform is the answer. But I don't agree. Farage and Tice are very shady characters,  the same and maybe worse than the rest of them.

Whoever we vote for we get a bunch of lying self seeking b*****ds.

Modern Britain. A home for heroes?

No, a home for brow beaten, exhausted, fundamentally decent people who are led by the nose by big business and globalists.

Before I'm attacked as a commie and a rich man's car scratcher, let me say this. I just want what people have in the rest of developed Europe and in particular the nordic countries: a fairer slice of the cake,  and not this constant feeling that we are having the piss ripped out of us.

 

i’ve never read such shite in all my life lol

Edited December 30, 2024 by mC HULL