eastcoast 4,216 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 19:55, Goly said: Sounds a cop out that one, as does scriptural evasion. Using a bible verse to avoid answering a question doesn't wash IMO. Expand Greater minds than ours have pondered the question: whisper the elixer then vanish in a blast it's a mystery, it's a mystery I'm still searching for a clue I'ts a mystery to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:15, Goly said: Isn't that you maturing though and not some divine intervention? Expand Nothing to do with that mate. Was about a long time ago I was in everthorpe jail an started going to catholic service. The guy at the time father Peter lovely fella. Said to me repent your sins an pray for the ones you've hurt. Meaning the guy a was locked up for the assault charge. An my cousin at the time killed herself in her car with car fumes. She'd only written to me saying cant wait till your home few days before. I don't blame God for that doing. I blame her for being selfish. A dont blame God at all. I prayed that she'll be accepted by God. That's why I started to go to the chapel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 18:58, Goly said: I wish I was religious, wish I could find peace in God. But there's so much horror in the world it's all a big myth IMO. Expand You need to believe mate. If you think like that like many out there. Then the world will never be a better place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saluki bouy 748 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 I go to baptist church most Sunday have done for a year don’t doubt there’s a God always had faith enjoy the service enjoy the bible lot of stuff clicks with me had a couple experiences when I was early days getting sober that removed any doubt at all God gave us all free will what do you do with yours because I tell you what I burned mine to the limit until I was broken now I try live with a thought to Gods will basically if I do this is anyone likely to be hurt by my actions if so probably my will not Gods I live far better life today so do my children and family due to gods grace theres great comfort and relief to be found in the bible and in church in my opinion due to my experience I don’t force it down anyone but if someone wants a conversation I’ll have one same as my grandparents done with me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,695 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:28, Bangersanmash said: Nothing to do with that mate. Was about a long time ago I was in everthorpe jail an started going to catholic service. The guy at the time father Peter lovely fella. Said to me repent your sins an pray for the ones you've hurt. Meaning the guy a was locked up for the assault charge. An my cousin at the time killed herself in her car with car fumes. She'd only written to me saying cant wait till your home few days before. I don't blame God for that doing. I blame her for being selfish. A dont blame God at all. I prayed that she'll be accepted by God. That's why I started to go to the chapel. Expand But, surely that's just a change of your mindset, guilt, remorse, sorrow, reflection, all natural behaviours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,695 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:30, Bangersanmash said: You need to believe mate. If you think like that like many out there. Then the world will never be a better place. Expand Hold on, all these people who you despise "believe" and they are the worst creatures on earth according to many, or isn't their god real, only the one "we" believe in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 (edited) On 28/12/2024 at 20:35, Goly said: Hold on, all these people who you despise "believe" and they are the worst creatures on earth according to many, or isn't their god real, only the one "we" believe Expand What do you think ? Do you see many Christians or Catholics , Jews. Strapping bombs to themselves? Yeah the IRA did back in day alot of bombing not killing themselves by strapping bombs to themselves. Would you say that was to do with faith. Some may say yes some may say no. But which faith does the most damage to humanity in the world. Edited December 28, 2024 by Bangersanmash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,695 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:42, Bangersanmash said: What do you think ? Do you see many Christians or Catholics , Jews. Strapping bombs to themselves? Yeah the IRA did back in day would you say that was to do with faith. Some may say yes some may say no. But which faith does the most damage to humanity in the world. Expand I'm asking you, we are all god's children are we not? All these Islamic extremists believe, what does that say about god? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:33, Goly said: But, surely that's just a change of your mindset, guilt, remorse, sorrow, reflection, all natural behaviours. Expand Alot of that too yeah. But like I say a started to go to the chapel to pray for my cousins passing an to hope she'll be accredited for what she'd done by taking her own life. My family are big into there faith on my mother's side. An my grandmother was telling me that she won't be accepted by God. That f****d my head up big time. Sat in a cell not been able to do shit family coming on a visit to give me the bad news. Wasn't aloud to go out to the funeral all my doing by being In jail. She killed herself with her boyfriend at the time. She was same age as me spent most summers together my mother her mother rest of my cousins. So going to the chapel gave me peace of mind. Each to our own mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:44, Goly said: I'm asking you, we are all god's children are we not? All these Islamic extremists believe, what does that say about god? Expand They are a different mate alot of hates put into them from the rubbish they are made to read about any other faith from a young age. Not all but many believe it too. Alot of them are fighting amongst themselves. Against the ones that don't believe that testimony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,922 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:44, Goly said: I'm asking you, we are all god's children are we not? All these Islamic extremists believe, what does that say about god? Expand Look at the proof of the global flood, as mentioned in the bible aswell, theyve found the evidence all over the globe 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,520 Posted December 28, 2024 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:53, Lenmcharristar said: Look at the proof of the global flood, as mentioned in the bible aswell, theyve found the evidence all over the globe Expand True Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,695 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:53, Lenmcharristar said: Look at the proof of the global flood, as mentioned in the bible aswell, theyve found the evidence all over the globe Expand Global flood, you mean global floods, which there have many many of in the earth's history? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goly 1,695 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 20:52, Bangersanmash said: They are a different mate alot of hates put into them from the rubbish they are made to read about any other faith from a young age. Not all but many believe it too. Alot of them are fighting amongst themselves. Against the ones that don't believe that testimony Expand They are different but they still believe in god almighty. And if you believe that they should be exterminated then that goes against what Jesus preached. The old testament is all the eye for an eye stuff, the new testament is all about praying for your enemies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,922 Posted December 28, 2024 Report Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 28/12/2024 at 21:01, Goly said: Global flood, you mean global floods, which there have many many of in the earth's history? Expand Well then noahs flood, the last one that killed off 95% of the planers life and created the coal seams, that ended the last ice age Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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