Collie greyhound

[shaaark 10,851]

6 hours ago, tatsblisters said:

No worries mate there was a lot took in by his books regarding lurchers and their breeding. I remember the second litter i bred out of the two dogs in my profile pic during the time I was on strike as the previous litter had produced some handy lurchers and a lad who had booked one gave me back word as he said he was going to go to Hancock for a lurcher pup instead and pay more than triple that i was charging for a pup out of two honest pot filling lurchers that really helped me and my young family through the winter of that strike. 

I remember when hancock had is ad in exchange and mart,

£80 a pup.

That was 4 times what I paid for a bitch I owned at the time!!  Lol

Edited December 29, 2024 by shaaark

[Goly 498]

17 minutes ago, shaaark said:

I remember when hancock had is ad in exchange and mart,

£80 a pup.

That was 4 times what I paid for a bitch I owned at the time!!  Lol

And around 20 times less than these peddled coursing breds with spicy names and padded sporting careers......

[Black neck 16,015]

27 minutes ago, Goly said:

And around 20 times less than these peddled coursing breds with spicy names and padded sporting careers......

[comanche 3,037]

20 hours ago, Neal said:

Comanche, have you read "Taught By Dogs: working, farm and family" by Colin Whittemore? My wife bought it for me for Christmas and there's a chapter called "Father's Sheepdogs" which is mainly about Welsh Sheepdogs. I've not read it yet but it's the first one in my Xmas present book pile that I'll be reading when I've finished my Philip Larkin novel: I'm so cultured!

No Neal ,l haven't heard of it . Do let me know if it's  interesting please. There isn't  a great deal about them apart from the description of then being hard dogs and rough workers compared with collies . I can vouch for both.

Imagine a dog that sleeps on the lawn in the pouring rain. 

And imagine having your sheep rounded up by a canine version of Lemmy .

I wonder if it mentions the WS's amazing ability to gleefully encase itself in anything wet,muddy or smelly   .

Philip Larkin? Cor that is highbrow. He was good in the Darling Buds of May though .

 

Edited December 29, 2024 by comanche

[mC HULL 12,823]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

a bag a dog food 50 quid now black not 3 quid lol i wonder how much greb paid for his akita ? lol

[Goly 498]

37 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

a bag a dog food 50 quid now black not 3 quid lol i wonder how much greb paid for his akita ? lol

Too much.

[mC HULL 12,823]

3 minutes ago, Goly said:

Too much.

nothing you like is ever to much mate lol

[Goly 498]

32 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

nothing you like is ever to much mate lol

Exactly my point. Lol

[Black neck 16,015]

2 hours ago, mC HULL said:

a bag a dog food 50 quid now black not 3 quid lol i wonder how much greb paid for his akita ? lol

I still pay 3 quid 

[Goly 498]

12 minutes ago, Black neck said:

I still pay 3 quid 

What ya feeding em, scraps?

[Black neck 16,015]

27 minutes ago, Goly said:

What ya feeding em, scraps?

Bounce chunks 

[comanche 3,037]

10 hours ago, Aussie Whip said:

Not knocking them but why use a collie? You rarely see or hear about collie type lurchers in Oz, a fair few whippet/kelpies and some cattle/greys. For fast game it's whippets, stags and greys or a combination of these, rarely salukis or deerhounds.

Well probably for some of the same reasons you have whippet x kelpies and cattle dog crosses. 

Crosses not to everyones' taste  but useful no doubt in the right hands and right circumstances.

By collie l guess you are thinking of Border Collie , and that's pretty much that what folk over here think of when they hear the word.

The Border of today has really only evolved over the last century. 

By the time Australia got Border Collies it already had it's own herding breeds .

Ironically these were descended from the very  British herding dogs that the Border ousted. 

Wales had half a dozen local varieties of herding dogs .There were the rough and smooth Scotch collies ,the beardies ,the sheltie and countless English regional breeds.

The border knocked nearly all into touch .Not necessarily with its stylish manner of work , but as much for it's suitability for competitive trialling . 

Apparently all today's Border Collies can be traced back 100 or so years to less than a handful of trials- winning sires .

The result of their popularity is that other,possibly more suitable herding types for lurcher breeding are hard to find  .

Ironically  this has lead to some folk using imported kelpies and cattle dogs!

Places like Australia and South America ,anywhere that saw early British settlers arrive with their farm dogs, may well be repositories of herding dog genes  long lost to their original homelands.

Can l be cheeky and ask you a question now Aussie Whip?

Dare l mention the ,,,,,,Smithfield?

A  term applied to  some of the dogs used by  drovers and livestock dealers supposedly associated with the meat market of the same name. 

Over here a contentious subject,especially should talk turn to the, l shudder to even type the words, Smithfield Lurcher

I believe you still have Smithfields in Australia    .  Do you reckon they are the real deal from old imported stock?   Or maybe thr result of a bit of fanciful spin put over any shaggy strain of old fashioned sheepdog?

All the best

 

[Goly 498]

A good collie is a proper hardy dog. A few year ago I was working up near Carlisle and we accessed through a farm. One day some cattle got out and the farmer came down with his collie. One of the cattle got cornered and then crashed  straight through a wooden fence whilst the dog was working it, the dog took a good bashing alright and didn't cower. These are the types of collie that should be getting used in lurcher crosses.

[comanche 3,037]

1 hour ago, Goly said:

 One of the cattle got cornered and then crashed  straight through a wooden fence whilst the dog was working it, the dog took a good bashing alright and didn't cower. These are the types of collie that should be getting used in lurcher crosses.

Or possibly  the sort of collie that used its brain to sum up the situation .

One that didn't corner a cow , panic it through a fence and take a  bashing .

One that hung back and gave the cow room to move in a controlled manner

[Goly 498]

Just now, comanche said:

Or possibly  the sort of collie that used its brain to sum up the situation .

One that didn't corner a cow , panic it through a fence and take a  bashing .

One that hung back and gave the cow room to move in a controlled manner

Jackers then? Lol