Collie greyhound

[Black neck 15,890]

3 hours ago, mC HULL said:

a lot a greyhound bitches struggle from been on the roids don’t they black 

Never done me no harm

[Aussie Whip 4,096]

What I've seen, the pups are more leggy with the greyhound as the dam. Not collie crosses but ACD's and others.

[poxon 5,725]

I don’t think it matters what way round it is the result is still the same I think the only reason why most myself included would want the dam as a greyhound would be so you know there’s no fuckery going on and you know it’s at least 50% greyhound as there is plenty of bandits in the running dog game. 

[low plains drifter 10,416]

10 hours ago, Black neck said:

Never done me no harm

 

[tatsblisters 9,542]

I have had 4 lurcher's from pup's bred out of greyhound bitches in the past one from a fx greyhound collie. It's just my opinion though i am not talking about greyhound x collies but the best lurchers i have seen was when the greyhound was the sire.

[Neal 1,862]

I know the pups aren't with the dam for long, but those few weeks are long enough to leave a lasting impression on the pups, either positive or negative. 

I'm not saying that the temperament of the male doesn't count (as it certainly does) but, in my limited experience, the temperament of the dam is even more important.

[comanche 2,957]

I think that the idea of using a greyhound as brood bitch stems in part from the fact that ex racers can, or   could be , had for nothing. 

 Persuading a farmer to let their collie  bitch produce lurchers when she could be in work or knocking out more working collies is another stumbling block.

 Though if we believe the "Old Tales" from the days when only the Gentry could afford a kennel of coursing dogs  and peasants tugged forelocks until their heads bled things might've  been different.

A stolen service from one of his Lordship's dogs and a bitch belonging to a local shepherd or passing drover might be dismissed as an accidental liaison .... Perhaps a greyhound over a collie is the traditional way . That's if such tales are to be believed of course.

Two of my favourite  lurchers happened  to have come from running dog sires over collie bitches   but as better qualified  folk have already posted,quality and temperament matter more than who does what to who.

 

[fireman 10,871]

Fuji once paid for a champion working Collie bitch to use for a brood dam and produced some fine lurchers from it,one being his old dog Don if i remember rightly.The bitch went back to the farmer in Ireland after the litter was weaned, the acd x's iv'e known have all been acd bitch x male grey...

[gnipper 6,435]

I've heard a few people say you get lighter/racier pups using the greyhound as the sire???

[Ferretman65 2,194]

Here's my ten pence worth if anything it's dosint matter watt way it's bred collie greyhound or greyhound collie but my old uncle always put speed on top I've seen both ways dosint make one different in my opinion you will always get pups throwing heavy to one way or the other 

[mC HULL 12,383]

i wouldn’t be arsed it’s going back to a sighthound again  anyway 

[tatsblisters 9,542]

9 hours ago, mC HULL said:

i wouldn’t be arsed it’s going back to a sighthound again  anyway 

Just out of curiosity mate and I am talking about a f1x saluki greyhound do you think a greyhound over a saluki bitch would be a better way to go than the other way round. I was thinking about the noted f1 crosses that came out of a saluki bitch and Ballyreagan Bob. 

[mC HULL 12,383]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

Just out of curiosity mate and I am talking about a f1x saluki greyhound do you think a greyhound over a saluki bitch would be a better way to go than the other way round. I was thinking about the noted f1 crosses that came out of a saluki bitch and Ballyreagan Bob. 

id go saluki bitch hoping some brain got passed to pups mate 

i know a lot a good dogs have a bit of tepe gawa and bob in there but how many  from this were influential ? swoop was class  from a line a good killers 

[Bangersanmash 2,834]

1 hour ago, tatsblisters said:

Just out of curiosity mate and I am talking about a f1x saluki greyhound do you think a greyhound over a saluki bitch would be a better way to go than the other way round. I was thinking about the noted f1 crosses that came out of a saluki bitch and Ballyreagan Bob. 

You've got him going. Was a decent post now you've mentioned saluki it's going to go tits up . Mc is here. Lol. Saluki are thick as f**k no brain just no reverse same as a greyhound. That gets a dog in trouble some times. Don't listen to Mc go with the collie. Lol

[Bangersanmash 2,834]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

id go saluki bitch hoping some brain got passed to pups mate 

i know a lot a good dogs have a bit of tepe gawa and bob in there but how many  from this were influential ? swoop was class  from a line a good killers 

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