mackay 3,358 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 39 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: That’s your opinion and it’s the nearest crocodile somewhat to you with terms of how it affects how you see the uk. others may have a broader scope and read on topics away from immigration levels they play is crucial in defence in the dealing with of every topic . Not every action is going to placate every persons views, but on a sliding scale of risk and priorities, torpedoing rigid raiders crossing the channel is going to to be pretty far down on that just my opinion of course It shouldn't be far down the scale, it should top the scale by a massive margin. The majority of problems (if not all) this country is facing is caused by unchecked, come one come all migration. Not racist, not right wing just fact. From infrastructure to gp visits to national security and everything in between there's your cause. The fact it isn't top of the scale screams to me that this situation is in fact engineered. 7 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,361 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 19 minutes ago, mackay said: It shouldn't be far down the scale, it should top the scale by a massive margin. The majority of problems (if not all) this country is facing is caused by unchecked, come one come all migration. Not racist, not right wing just fact. From infrastructure to gp visits to national security and everything in between there's your cause. The fact it isn't top of the scale screams to me that this situation is in fact engineered. Mate ten years ago it was being openly talked about by Angela merkal and the European nazi super state how they needed a million men a year of working age just to make up the pension short fall and the birth rate has reduced even further so they will just keep on importing them they don’t care about the issues you raised at all what’s a couple of little girls lives in comparison to keeping the pigs feeding at the trough we are all disposable and those homeless soldiers are worth nothing as the state has taken the best years from them and they have nothing more to offer, it’s a reality that most just can’t see even after all these years 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 3 hours ago, Greyman said: Mate ten years ago it was being openly talked about by Angela merkal and the European nazi super state how they needed a million men a year of working age just to make up the pension short fall and the birth rate has reduced even further so they will just keep on importing them they don’t care about the issues you raised at all what’s a couple of little girls lives in comparison to keeping the pigs feeding at the trough we are all disposable and those homeless soldiers are worth nothing as the state has taken the best years from them and they have nothing more to offer, it’s a reality that most just can’t see even after all these years As I’ve said I’m not a millionaire. Miles away from all your views but In reality , no one makes soldiers homeless but themselves . An awful way to look at but thats the reality 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Greyman 28,361 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 30 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: As I’ve said I’m not a millionaire. Miles away from all your views but In reality , no one makes soldiers homeless but themselves . An awful way to look at but thats the reality I think that’s true of many homeless, it’s a life choice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,768 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 5 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: As I’ve said I’m not a millionaire. Miles away from all your views but In reality , no one makes soldiers homeless but themselves . An awful way to look at but thats the reality 4 hours ago, Greyman said: I think that’s true of many homeless, it’s a life choice When it comes to homelessness wether that be soldiers or not, I think it’s accurate to say for SOME it’s a life choice…..wether that be choosing to be homeless or a succession of bad choices that lead to homelessness (drink, drugs, gambling etc etc) But I also think a lot of these conversations about subjects such as this are done out of context…..as in, they are opinions formed at some point 20 years ago or more. We have always had tramps (as they used to be called) but never like you see now……something more has happened. I don’t think it reasonable to say tens of thousands are making way more bad choices than people did in the past when it was just the odd local tramp. No…..many of these people are victims in some way, maybe they don’t have the brains to see the direction things are taken them, but they are victims none the less……in a system where many are one or two pay cheques away from disaster is it any surprise ? I can remember when me and my Mrs started out, renting a place meant just rock up with your deposit and bingo, your in and it was affordable. Now, it’s credit checks and this and that…..I’d have never passed any of that back when I was in my 20s or 30s…..f**k me, I wouldn’t pass it now !! Same with mortgages, when I got mine it was “how much deposit you got?”, great that will do, crack on !……..now it’s letters from the f***ing tax man and money laundering and life investigated……many don’t have that information, I couldn’t have named one bloke in my circle with any of that when I was 20-25? And even those that do now are having to take out 35 year mortgages that they will never live to see the back of…… Rent for a 3 bed is 2 grand, council tax is another 2 grand…..can’t start a business, can’t earn a bit on the side, can’t deliver takeaways without getting f***ing nicked for having the wrong car insurance !!! Nah boys, I can’t agree that all those tents city’s you are springing up are “life choices”……these are thousands of people in absolute despair that they have nowhere to turn. 11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,840 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 3 minutes ago, WILF said: When it comes to homelessness wether that be soldiers or not, I think it’s accurate to say for SOME it’s a life choice…..wether that be choosing to be homeless or a succession of bad choices that lead to homelessness (drink, drugs, gambling etc etc) But I also think a lot of these conversations about subjects such as this are done out of context…..as in, they are opinions formed at some point 20 years ago or more. We have always had tramps (as they used to be called) but never like you see now……something more has happened. I don’t think it reasonable to say tens of thousands are making way more bad choices than people did in the past when it was just the odd local tramp. No…..many of these people are victims in some way, maybe they don’t have the brains to see the direction things are taken them, but they are victims none the less……in a system where many are one or two pay cheques away from disaster is it any surprise ? I can remember when me and my Mrs started out, renting a place meant just rock up with your deposit and bingo, your in and it was affordable. Now, it’s credit checks and this and that…..I’d have never passed any of that back when I was in my 20s or 30s…..f**k me, I wouldn’t pass it now !! Same with mortgages, when I got mine it was “how much deposit you got?”, great that will do, crack on !……..now it’s letters from the f***ing tax man and money laundering and life investigated……many don’t have that information, I couldn’t have named one bloke in my circle with any of that when I was 20-25? And even those that do now are having to take out 35 year mortgages that they will never live to see the back of…… Rent for a 3 bed is 2 grand, council tax is another 2 grand…..can’t start a business, can’t earn a bit on the side, can’t deliver takeaways without getting f***ing nicked for having the wrong car insurance !!! Nah boys, I can’t agree that all those tents city’s you are springing up are “life choices”……these are thousands of people in absolute despair that they have nowhere to turn. Agreed but as you know , you can’t do two decades going to all the weddings and at the end whinge about the funerals either 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,768 Posted December 6 Report Share Posted December 6 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Agreed but as you know , you can’t do two decades going to all the weddings and at the end whinge about the funerals either Absolutely mate, but you know only too well how they can also move the goal posts on you…..you spend a career planning based on one thing only to end up with half of what was agreed in the first place…..for some, that has to be a killer ? But agreed, if you have 3 years done and have decided to get on the piss when you come out with no civilian skills to back it up then you are heading one way 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,568 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 18 hours ago, scotty12 said: So whilst people are struggling to afford to put their heating on or buy food ex service men laying in the streets homeless etc etc we have ILLEGAL immigrants of fighting aged men get housed in nice warm hotels with food in their belly's daily free of charge at the expense of the tax payers money but as you say that would be pretty far down their priorities. could you give us mere normal working class tax payers a clue on what would be high up on their list of priorities from your own personal opinion ? because from where the common man is standing these army chiefs aint making no decisions in the best interest of the people of the uk or they don't have the power to make any decisions Either way one or the other they a traitors of the highest order or should be brought forward for treason along with the rest of the rats What's your opinion on the ongoing situation in Syria mate. I find your posts interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,361 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 10 hours ago, WILF said: When it comes to homelessness wether that be soldiers or not, I think it’s accurate to say for SOME it’s a life choice…..wether that be choosing to be homeless or a succession of bad choices that lead to homelessness (drink, drugs, gambling etc etc) But I also think a lot of these conversations about subjects such as this are done out of context…..as in, they are opinions formed at some point 20 years ago or more. We have always had tramps (as they used to be called) but never like you see now……something more has happened. I don’t think it reasonable to say tens of thousands are making way more bad choices than people did in the past when it was just the odd local tramp. No…..many of these people are victims in some way, maybe they don’t have the brains to see the direction things are taken them, but they are victims none the less……in a system where many are one or two pay cheques away from disaster is it any surprise ? I can remember when me and my Mrs started out, renting a place meant just rock up with your deposit and bingo, your in and it was affordable. Now, it’s credit checks and this and that…..I’d have never passed any of that back when I was in my 20s or 30s…..f**k me, I wouldn’t pass it now !! Same with mortgages, when I got mine it was “how much deposit you got?”, great that will do, crack on !……..now it’s letters from the f***ing tax man and money laundering and life investigated……many don’t have that information, I couldn’t have named one bloke in my circle with any of that when I was 20-25? And even those that do now are having to take out 35 year mortgages that they will never live to see the back of…… Rent for a 3 bed is 2 grand, council tax is another 2 grand…..can’t start a business, can’t earn a bit on the side, can’t deliver takeaways without getting f***ing nicked for having the wrong car insurance !!! Nah boys, I can’t agree that all those tents city’s you are springing up are “life choices”……these are thousands of people in absolute despair that they have nowhere to turn. The other big factor was another great government scam when they closed down all the homes or looney bins as they were known and branded it care in the community. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,531 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 32 minutes ago, Greyman said: The other big factor was another great government scam when they closed down all the homes or looney bins as they were known and branded it care in the community. yes the nasty buggers, putting me on a yellow day release ticket, with the promise i get a weekly visit from certain gentlemen, nobody has been yet eh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,421 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 3 hours ago, tatsblisters said: What's your opinion on the ongoing situation in Syria mate. I find your posts interesting. taking there oil trump has said it i left soldiers there were taking all the oil iran iraq syria libya shouldn’t of taken this long all should be wrapped up but militarily the west are a lot shitter then were lead to believe 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Lenmcharristar 9,747 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 11 hours ago, WILF said: When it comes to homelessness wether that be soldiers or not, I think it’s accurate to say for SOME it’s a life choice…..wether that be choosing to be homeless or a succession of bad choices that lead to homelessness (drink, drugs, gambling etc etc) But I also think a lot of these conversations about subjects such as this are done out of context…..as in, they are opinions formed at some point 20 years ago or more. We have always had tramps (as they used to be called) but never like you see now……something more has happened. I don’t think it reasonable to say tens of thousands are making way more bad choices than people did in the past when it was just the odd local tramp. No…..many of these people are victims in some way, maybe they don’t have the brains to see the direction things are taken them, but they are victims none the less……in a system where many are one or two pay cheques away from disaster is it any surprise ? I can remember when me and my Mrs started out, renting a place meant just rock up with your deposit and bingo, your in and it was affordable. Now, it’s credit checks and this and that…..I’d have never passed any of that back when I was in my 20s or 30s…..f**k me, I wouldn’t pass it now !! Same with mortgages, when I got mine it was “how much deposit you got?”, great that will do, crack on !……..now it’s letters from the f***ing tax man and money laundering and life investigated……many don’t have that information, I couldn’t have named one bloke in my circle with any of that when I was 20-25? And even those that do now are having to take out 35 year mortgages that they will never live to see the back of…… Rent for a 3 bed is 2 grand, council tax is another 2 grand…..can’t start a business, can’t earn a bit on the side, can’t deliver takeaways without getting f***ing nicked for having the wrong car insurance !!! Nah boys, I can’t agree that all those tents city’s you are springing up are “life choices”……these are thousands of people in absolute despair that they have nowhere to turn. Whats happening is the same thing that happened in sanfrancisco, lack or leadership or law enforcement and have everybody believe theyre victims of the rich polluting classes, and its actively encouraged, the leaders need to stamp out drugs and clean out the scumbags from their ranks, and start getting these peoples clean and back to work 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 1,947 Posted December 7 Report Share Posted December 7 3 hours ago, tatsblisters said: What's your opinion on the ongoing situation in Syria mate. I find your posts interesting. Getting rid of the corrupt regimes backed by the west. These countries will also have a new financial system they will be rich and prosper with a high standard of life no more 3rd world shit holes and no more war. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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