THE STIFFMEISTER 15,705 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 21 minutes ago, mel b said: So you're saying he's wrong for defending his own property ?. If you think that what they did was OK, then you really need to evaluate the way that you look at life stiff. A gang of keepers jumping a kid with a lamp , would be just as wrong .it would be cowardly and shameful, just like those thugs in the video. It's all irrelevant now , because nobody within ten miles of that farm will be able to go out for a shine , without the police jumping all over them. Idiots like that ruin things for everybody. I think you need to reevaluate your view in life cause people will look at that as a challenge not a threat imho Also to chuck a spanner at that , but that kid shouldn’t be there either . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,231 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, lurcherman 887 said: Part and parcel of living in a farm I suppose It is , but it's still not right mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,238 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, mel b said: Nope, he's not fair game . It's his property , end of. That farmland is his back garden, and his livelihood. What would you do if they had been churning up your garden , and wrecking your tools , so that you couldn't make a living next year ?. Would you just politely ask them to leave , and just say , oh well , it's just one of those things. I just can't understand how any decent and right thinking bloke , can think that what they did was OK. that’s how you see it mate a lot will see it as he’s fair game as soon as he rams me your going to be fuming with them no doubt i’m not saying driving all over ripping up land is ok or how i’d do it you go out to your garden punch someone in the mouth you can’t cry about it after if they give you a hiding can you ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,705 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 A hundred percent on the money Mchull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,231 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I think you need to reevaluate your view in life cause people will look at that as a challenge not a threat imho Also to chuck a spanner at that , but that kid shouldn’t be there either . We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one stiff. I know the difference between being a bit of a lad , and being a violent cowardly thug . Theirs a line , and no decent bloke , with any integrity and self respect would cross it. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,705 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 A hundred percent I don’t condone it , but I hugely understand it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,231 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: that’s how you see it mate a lot will see it as he’s fair game as soon as he rams me your going to be fuming with them no doubt i’m not saying driving all over ripping up land is ok or how i’d do it you go out to your garden punch someone in the mouth you can’t cry about it after if they give you a hiding can you ? Again mc. Well just have to agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,212 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 5 minutes ago, mC HULL said: that’s how you see it mate a lot will see it as he’s fair game as soon as he rams me your going to be fuming with them no doubt i’m not saying driving all over ripping up land is ok or how i’d do it you go out to your garden punch someone in the mouth you can’t cry about it after if they give you a hiding can you ? Bit of a difference between someone giving you a whack because you've whacked them and a group of gutless c**ts attacking a bloke and his missus with catapults when they're in the wrong in the first place. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,513 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 let me put things to right eh lads, they souldnt have been there in the first place, YES Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,238 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 3 minutes ago, downsouth said: Bit of a difference between someone giving you a whack because you've whacked them and a group of gutless c**ts attacking a bloke and his missus with catapults when they're in the wrong in the first place. there’s that side as well mate i’ve been caught he’s clipped me motor shit happens when i’m out behaving like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,115 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 So many changes in hunting, the main imo being social media, lads smashing as much shit as possible to get likes. I agree the ban has changed everything and for lads who want to genuinely test their dogs to the max it's made it near on impossible, I admit I don't do half of what I used to, for me it's not worth the aggro... But there's a line and there always was, this isn't looking with rose tinted specs or some romantic "old poacher" view, the lads in that clip would be a bunch of c**ts in the pub, in the shop, in your businesses etc.. and thats a fact... Forget the farmer rammed them first or whatever, they would run roughshod regardless, the farmer in hindsight should just call the police, but 2 hours later when they arrive his drilled field and livelihood is f****d... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,642 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 (edited) 2 hours ago, NEWKID said: As we are all hunting hunting men your immediate reaction is to defend other hunting men, unfortunately the old school poacher is not the current type, "walk the land and leave no trace" was how many of us were taught... These lads don't give a f**k imo, if the video is real then they are acting like c**ts and bring it on top for everyone... It's nothing new though, lads like this fuel the fire that is already lit against us... I can't defend them, it's not my way of doing things and the blokes I'll walk out with wouldn't have them in their company either... Trouble is, when you criminalise everything then you may as well be a criminal……..like the hand gun ban, the only people that didn’t have hand guns anymore were law abiding straight go’ers, the nastier element didn’t take a blind bit of notice. Theres no mileage in playing the white man when you are just going to get f****d anyway I suppose. The government made lamping a high stakes game with the draconian penalty’s imposed if you are caught……no longer is it a “Do me a favour lads, f**k off before I call old bill”…..now, there is real skin in the game. Nobody want the hassle of a fine so you just move off, but if it means losing your motor, your license, your dogs, £5k fine and jail time then you are going to go to any lengths…… Edited November 17 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,115 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 9 minutes ago, WILF said: Trouble is, when you criminalise everything then you may as well be a criminal……..like the hand gun ban, the only people that didn’t have hand guns anymore were law abiding straight go’ers, the nastier element didn’t take a blind bit of notice. Theres no mileage in playing the white man when you are just going to get f****d anyway I suppose. Sorry mate I don't agree.. How you behave and conduct yourself is what makes you a man imo... Regardless of ban or not the video shows a bunch of c**ts acting like a bunch of c**ts, if we want to align ourselves with that type of behaviour as "we have no choice" is a poor show all round imo.. None of us are whiter than white and I'm sure have all been in many places/many acts we shouldn't be many times... I can defend to myself that I've not done much wrong and affected no one else in how I've conducted myself in the field, along with the lads I keep in my company ... 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,231 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 41 minutes ago, WILF said: Trouble is, when you criminalise everything then you may as well be a criminal……..like the hand gun ban, the only people that didn’t have hand guns anymore were law abiding straight go’ers, the nastier element didn’t take a blind bit of notice. Theres no mileage in playing the white man when you are just going to get f****d anyway I suppose. The government made lamping a high stakes game with the draconian penalty’s imposed if you are caught……no longer is it a “Do me a favour lads, f**k off before I call old bill”…..now, there is real skin in the game. Nobody want the hassle of a fine so you just move off, but if it means losing your motor, your license, your dogs, £5k fine and jail time then you are going to go to any lengths…… That's the problem wilf . They didn't just move off . They stayed , and terrorised the farmer and his wife , for nothing more than their own amusement, and to show off on Facebook . Nobody I know would behave in such a cowardly and thuggish way. I'd be f***ing ashamed for anyone to see me behaving like that. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WataWalloper 336 Posted November 17 Report Share Posted November 17 Anybody excusing this an defending it is a tit haha I mean who needs to go lamping hares in 6 jeeps, cnuts that ain’t got the bottle to do it themselves that’s who, what a bunch a wallopers 6 Fcuking motors full an why the catapults of they that hard why not drag him out pick up an slap him, cowardly cnuts at the very least 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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