THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 It yiur running them In enclosed small fields , I think them roe can give yiur dog a false sense of ability . Where as they can open their legs a bit more on larger land and make a dog look daft 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,662 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 (edited) 18 minutes ago, stresser said: Edited November 8 by WILF Thanks you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 4 hours ago, WILF said: Too many variables imho, depends on topography, situation etc. As in, see them come out of a block of woodland into open ground and then double in behind and come at them from the block of woodland……I’ve seen munty just stand and wait to get killed in that situation, I can only assume because the only cover was where the danger was approaching from. Seen Roe stand and watch a dog run up a beam almost as if trying to work out what it was and by the time they knew they were in trouble dog was in them. Seen daytime fallow take dogs on an absolute steeplechase including across big open ground, through gateways and hedges and never look like tiring once. Also seen all the above take off at the slightest hint of danger like rockets, and seen them make all sorts of mistakes as well. Personally speaking I’ve seen fast deer and deer that make mistakes….I never seen any slow ones ! Lol I’m sure more experienced people may know better. is say roe are quicker and more agile mate with fallow it’s more size but does go over easy don’t they or didn’t they Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 4 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: It yiur running them In enclosed small fields , I think them roe can give yiur dog a false sense of ability . Where as they can open their legs a bit more on larger land and make a dog look daft but fast dogs close the gap mate open land day but i agree most lamp dogs on open land day the roe is leaving them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 5 hours ago, steve t said: Are roe quicker than fallow? i’d say so mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 let’s not pretend that most lurchers are pulling fallow over like nothing . I’ve seen very well bred lurchers jack when running at bigger herds almost like they have stage fright. its not a game for the mk 1 running dog 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pengelli 369 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 i find any deer i have lamped especially roe seem to panic a lot when the dogs hard on them tripping on dips in the land and misjudging jumping over fences and bouncing off them i have seen them standing staring at the dog coming up the beam and not moving till its to late different story day time though just my opinion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 20 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: let’s not pretend that most lurchers are pulling fallow over like nothing . I’ve seen very well bred lurchers jack when running at bigger herds almost like they have stage fright. its not a game for the mk 1 running dog the does go easy enough mate good eating you can move them etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 22 minutes ago, pengelli said: i find any deer i have lamped especially roe seem to panic a lot when the dogs hard on them tripping on dips in the land and misjudging jumping over fences and bouncing off them i have seen them standing staring at the dog coming up the beam and not moving till its to late different story day time though just my opinion i find the opposite on open land they smash threw cover jump fences hedges well and have a few mins in. the tank Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchers 2,763 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 We’ve 3 good dogs on a big fallow stag as it jumped a fence they hit him but couldn’t get him on the bottom.But he was a real big one but roe can shift but if you have a good dog with speed in it and now’s its job,it can still close the gap on a fast roe but just it to make a mistake then so ya have it.But it’s these that kill them and leave them does me in.I tell them to chance there sport or get a Xbox or something as they are in the wrong game,it’s free meat and if you don’t want it give it to someone else to eat instead of leaving it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,362 Posted November 9 Author Report Share Posted November 9 16 hours ago, jok said: Someone has to say it. 14 roe catching the train to work ? Very intelligent animals. Jok. My first lurcher done an about turn a few times when we were out in the fields and he was always at home when I got back, it was a journey of a few stops on the train then a couple of mile up a waggonway to get to the running ground, I used to say the old dog travelled back the same way, and he wouldn't have bought a ticket either Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 12 hours ago, mC HULL said: the does go easy enough mate good eating you can move them etc I’d imagine your referring to isolated animals or on the beam a travelling herd of thirty plus fallow is a very different scene for any dog to be slipped into and for a unfamiliar animal can be daunting 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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