London coursing lads

[mC HULL 13,841]

Just now, riohog said:

you know as well as i do  unless you seen matings they tell you anything  , my cousinand alwin pugh  were at it with salukis .they were regestered  but the peds were shall we say  a bit iffy  ,there wasnt really enough sal blood to outcross so well  shall we say they were abit crative with the peds  ,

 

that goes on mate especially with pures doesnt it 

like my feathered bitch pure mother i go back pure now line breed off them there pure really aint they 

[mC HULL 13,841]

but again rio how many are pure in country there from ? just lines  a running dog to me really mate 

how did that pure you had run compared to coursing breds mate

[riohog 5,786]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

that goes on mate especially with pures doesnt it 

like my feathered bitch pure mother i go back pure now line breed off them there pure really aint they 

near as dam it  yes  it was all about the big money then pures were making strong wonga   my cousin made some strong money out of pur litters  .

 

[riohog 5,786]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

but again rio how many are pure in country there from ? just lines  a running dog to me really mate 

how did that pure you had run compared to coursing breds mate

its all about the defonition of pure!!each coo salfrom different countries will be different  .

 

[mC HULL 13,841]

1 minute ago, riohog said:

near as dam it  yes  it was all about the big money then pures were making strong wonga   my cousin made some strong money out of pur litters  .

 

a good saluki  worth weight in gold today aye but watching them there things to look for lol 

[riohog 5,786]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

a good saluki  worth weight in gold today aye but watching them there things to look for lol 

true   but that goes for any litter  of runing dog  out of the thousands of litters bred .how many are super dogs      ?  a fair amount is dow to the man on the other end of the leach  to get the best from them ..

[riohog 5,786]

Yep, famous coursing dogs from the 1970s. Rumour has it that Merlin was line bred with saluki, beddie, grey and possibly other things in him and Eve was a high % saluki with deer and greyhound in the mix. Legendary dogs - often the true ability of famous dogs is disputed but the consensus seems to be that these two really were fantastic.
Given that, many people will claim to own and have puppies available from dogs from their lines which may or may not be true! But their true progeny were also, some of them, very good dogs too, so it's said.       just goes to show what was in the mix  years ago

[Reg478728 145]

Someone was talking about this other day people still saying they have stuff off the hoover which he’s real name was Toby it was 30 plus years ago 

1 hour ago, riohog said:

think you have to remember all these old dogs 70,s and 80,s has been very very  diluted  ,i do smile when i see folk saying ,oh yes  its down from  melin and eve   or  laddie  the street acident

[riohog 5,786]

4 minutes ago, Reg478728 said:

Someone was talking about this other day people still saying they have stuff off the hoover which he’s real name was Toby it was 30 plus years ago 

aha  well there was a more modern dog named hoover  so it may have been that one i had a pup from this one but it died  ,

[scotty12 2,733]

25 minutes ago, riohog said:

Yep, famous coursing dogs from the 1970s. Rumour has it that Merlin was line bred with saluki, beddie, grey and possibly other things in him and Eve was a high % saluki with deer and greyhound in the mix. Legendary dogs - often the true ability of famous dogs is disputed but the consensus seems to be that these two really were fantastic.
Given that, many people will claim to own and have puppies available from dogs from their lines which may or may not be true! But their true progeny were also, some of them, very good dogs too, so it's said.       just goes to show what was in the mix  years ago

Were they as good as they say or did they just seem that way because they were far superior to the traditional deerhound x collie x ect that made them seem so good. 
 

kinda like football the older guys will always say the players and teams were better back in the day than they are now. 
 

@mC HULL I know you said they ran them more back in the day but how much more twice a week is enough for any daytime dog giving quality runs and sometimes 3 times a week there's still plenty of boys doing that just now add that in with all the knowledge people can get of the internet with conditioning dogs properly and feeding them ect ect ....surely the standard and wellbeing of dogs have improved a bit or we are going backwards 

Edited Thursday at 12:58 by scotty12

[scotty12 2,733]

4 minutes ago, riohog said:

aha  well there was a more modern dog named hoover  so it may have been that one i had a pup from this one but it died  ,

Nice sort that mate 

[riohog 5,786]

2 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

Nice sort that mate 

the pup i had was the spitting image of yhat hoover dog  but he got brain damage and i hd to pts   he was a powerfull beast only 4 when he went  .

[riohog 5,786]

22 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

Were they as good as they say or did they just seem that way because they were far superior to the traditional deerhound x collie x ect that made them seem so good. 
 

kinda like football the older guys will always say the players and teams were better back in the day than they are now. 
 

@mC HULL I know you said they ran them more back in the day but how much more twice a week is enough for any daytime dog giving quality runs and sometimes 3 times a week there's still plenty of boys doing that just now add that in with all the knowledge people can get of the internet with conditioning dogs properly and feeding them ect ect ....surely the standard and wellbeing of dogs have improved a bit or we are going backwards 

Were they as good as they say or did they just seem that way because they were far superior to the traditional deerhound x collie x ect that made them seem so good. 
 

kinda like football the older guys will always say the players and teams were better back in the day than they are now         yes they were good in there dayand supirior to the traditional coursing deer and collie x.s  would they be today      ?  we will never know  .

[Goly 1,755]

32 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

Were they as good as they say or did they just seem that way because they were far superior to the traditional deerhound x collie x ect that made them seem so good. 
 

kinda like football the older guys will always say the players and teams were better back in the day than they are now. 
 

@mC HULL I know you said they ran them more back in the day but how much more twice a week is enough for any daytime dog giving quality runs and sometimes 3 times a week there's still plenty of boys doing that just now add that in with all the knowledge people can get of the internet with conditioning dogs properly and feeding them ect ect ....surely the standard and wellbeing of dogs have improved a bit or we are going backwards 

That's what I'm saying, if the dogs haven't improved from the 70's, 80's then those in the doing are doing something wrong, like every type of breed, the aim of breeding is to preserve & improve.

[riohog 5,786]

4 minutes ago, riohog said:

Were they as good as they say or did they just seem that way because they were far superior to the traditional deerhound x collie x ect that made them seem so good. 
 

kinda like football the older guys will always say the players and teams were better back in the day than they are now         yes they were good in there dayand supirior to the traditional coursing deer and collie x.s  would they be today      ?  we will never know  .

all i can say is i had a saluki /grey  about 82 ish ,use to go every sunday big coursing meet  on an estate  most dogs were deerhound x,s  my salx  wiped the floor  with themthey just dint have it in them ..