London coursing lads

[Goly 1,694]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

no mate your way off the uk saluki was coursing our hare regular since late 1800s 

not like now 

it’s the sand when you run on the beach it’s taxing so is the slop 

So you're saying that the salukis over here are down off the dogs from the 1800's, I doubt that mate? Lol

[scotty12 2,717]

8 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

but english men have made a type of dog for there quarry lol

Consisting of middles eastern blood and then adding some more in when looking for an outcross lol.   Middle East jenk lol 

[mC HULL 13,805]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

So you're saying that the salukis over here are down off the dogs from the 1800's, I doubt that mate? Lol

of course some are lol what were they made in a lab ? lol

[scotty12 2,717]

1 minute ago, Goly said:

So you're saying that the salukis over here are down off the dogs from the 1800's, I doubt that mate? Lol

English Salukis lol .....  the day walkers think they invented the wheel lol 

[scotty12 2,717]

15 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

you be years if ever to get a dog to compete with his mate unless your ruthless 

Your white dog no good enough to compete with his ? 

[Goly 1,694]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

of course some are lol what were they made in a lab ? lol

Show me the lines that are being worked over here that trace their lineage back to UK dogs from 1800's?

I get your point about them being suited to the slop due to them running heavy going sand in Arab land but it's not because they have adjusted to our land through centuries of selective breeding. Lol

I'd say most that are here are down off relatively recent imports?

[chartpolski 24,774]

The crossing of the saluki and the greyhound was done for one reason and one reason only; to get as near the stamina of the saluki and as near the speed of the greyhound.

Much the same as the non-ped whippet is the result of judicious breeding together of the whippet and the greyhound, to get the size of the whippet and the speed of the greyhound.

I said years ago that maybe it was time for the coursing bred dog and the non-ped whippet to be recognised as breeds in their own right, after all, both their “pedigrees “ can be traced back many generations.

Not recognised by the KC, I hasten to add, that would be the death knell for both breeds !

Cheers.

[chartpolski 24,774]

Double post for some reason.

Edited Sunday at 13:29 by chartpolski

[Goly 1,694]

Just now, chartpolski said:

The crossing of the saluki and the greyhound was done for one reason and one reason only; to get as near the stamina of the saluki and as near the speed of the greyhound.

Much the same as the non-ped whippet is the result of judicious breeding together of the whippet and the greyhound, to get the size of the whippet and the speed of the greyhound.

I said years ago that maybe it was time for the coursing bred dog and the non-ped whippet to be recognised as breeds in their own right, after all, both their “pedigrees “ can be traced back many generations.

Not recognised by the KC, I hasten to add, that would be the death knell for both breeds !

Cheers.

But why would they do that if the saluki is canine perfection for hunting game like hares, deer, gazelle? I do agree with mC in as much as men crossed what they had at the time, if the gene pool of saluki's was very small or non-existent then the natural step would be to cross with a greyhound, or a lurcher.

[BEARINATOR 2,872]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

But why would they do that if the saluki is canine perfection for hunting game like hares, deer, gazelle? I do agree with mC in as much as men crossed what they had at the time, if the gene pool of saluki's was very small or non-existent then the natural step would be to cross with a greyhound, or a lurcher.

To give them brains 

[chartpolski 24,774]

2 minutes ago, Goly said:

But why would they do that if the saluki is canine perfection for hunting game like hares, deer, gazelle? I do agree with mC in as much as men crossed what they had at the time, if the gene pool of saluki's was very small or non-existent then the natural step would be to cross with a greyhound, or a lurcher.

It was done to suit the ground, quarry and conditions in this country.

Cheers.

[Goly 1,694]

Just now, BEARINATOR said:

To give them brains 

I'm not sure a greyhound would do that mate? Lol

A saluki clearly has hunting brains, isn't that all you really need when running hares?

[mC HULL 13,805]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

It was done to suit the ground, quarry and conditions in this country.

Cheers.

i speak to and have spoken the people did it chart

[Goly 1,694]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i speak to and have spoken the people did it chart

What were in the original coursing breds, saluki, greyhound, lurcher?

[mC HULL 13,805]

21 minutes ago, Goly said:

Show me the lines that are being worked over here that trace their lineage back to UK dogs from 1800's?

 

saluki i my dogs most from this blood go saluki archive see if you can trace it 1800 lol 

tansterne when you pop i’ll take you to an old bare knuckle fighter keeps horses he has the spot now me old man’s mate around coursing and matches before most know what they was hes about 79 no