Using propane gas , on a butane heater.

[Borr 6,748]

Being a heater , I probably wouldn't, regulator and hose probably different, run on different pressure. 

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 12:50, Greyman said:

A lot of camping gas is a mixture of butane and propane so can’t see it being a problem general rule of thumb is give it a go and if you have a nice blue flame all is good if it’ burns orange it’s not right 

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This is sort of where I've arrived at .

I've done as much research as my brain could cope with . I've gone around and around in circles , and come right back to what I already knew in the first place.

I was just a bit worried about it , because I get pretty paranoid about gas .

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 12:03, greg64 said:

i would also turn the gas off at the bottle at night in case you have a leak propane and butane are  heavier than air and always falls to the lowest point that is why you have vents under all appliances in caravans called drop holes to let the gas escape in case of a leak and never block those vents off or any vents in a caravan 

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That's something that I didn't realise , so if I do use a gas heater , I'll be putting in an extra vent

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 14:09, Borr said:

Being a heater , I probably wouldn't, regulator and hose probably different, run on different pressure. 

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From what information I can find , the bottles are different pressure,  but the regulators do the job of letting out the correct pressure , and propane and butane operate at about the same pressure .

[greg64 2,916]

  On 14/10/2024 at 14:24, mel b said:

From what information I can find , the bottles are different pressure,  but the regulators do the job of letting out the correct pressure , and propane and butane operate at about the same pressure .

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propane operates at 37 mb and butane at 28 mb but if your caravan is a tourer built after i think 2004 and has a bulkhead regulator they will probably work at 30mb and will do for both propane and butane but you will have to change the pig tails (the hose from the bottle to the reg) they use them because bottles in Europe all come with different fittings, but if your caravan is a static with a bottle outside you will have to change the regulator and remember to install another vent ,if being used all winter  by you and your  family i would really get a gas safe engineer to look at  it and get it tested annually ,ive seen them go up in flames and they are like tinder boxes the speed they burn is scary and the burnt aluminium just turns to tinfoil so you really should get it checked out by a proper gas safe fitter 

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[Arry 23,123]

One thing to think about if you have a large bottle of gas out side the van is to chain it so it cant fall/be knock over and pull on the gas pipes. 

Cheers Arry

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 14:44, greg64 said:

propane operates at 37 mb and butane at 28 mb but if your caravan is a tourer built after i think 2004 and has a bulkhead regulator they will probably work at 30mb and will do for both propane and butane but you will have to change the pig tails (the hose from the bottle to the reg) they use them because bottles in Europe all come with different fittings, but if your caravan is a static with a bottle outside you will have to change the regulator and remember to install another vent ,if being used all winter  by you and your  family i would really get a gas safe engineer to look at  it and get it tested annually 

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My caravan was built before they had cars to tow them with , I think it's been sitting in the woodland for about 30 years. The regulator is the one that was with the caravan when I bought the woodland.  I put a four ring gas hob in about five years ago , and that's been faultless , but , now that I know it could be an issue , I'll put a new regulator on there.

The bottle is already chained up , I'd never thought about it falling over to be honest,  it was purely for security,  but now that I know that falling could be an issue,  I'll make the chain a bit tighter .

I probably should have explained.  It's a very old 4 berth tourer . It's only about 10ft long inside . I removed all of the interior , and it's just got two bench seats , a cooker , a sink , and a few cupboards . I put up a solar panel , and chucked in a leisure battery,  so that we have lights , and can charge phones etc .

It's more camping than caravaning. 

[mel b 3,014]

As you can see , it's luxury beyond my wildest dreams . We even have guest accommodation now.

[greg64 2,916]

  On 14/10/2024 at 15:21, mel b said:

As you can see , it's luxury beyond my wildest dreams . We even have guest accommodation now.

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i'd have a little wood burner in there with all that available wood

[Arry 23,123]

  On 14/10/2024 at 15:21, mel b said:

As you can see , it's luxury beyond my wildest dreams . We even have guest accommodation now.

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Good old buses them X-Trails Mel.

Cheers Arry

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 15:55, greg64 said:

i'd have a little wood burner in there with all that available wood

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Had it been a bit bigger , I probably would have to be honest . I love log burners , but you can't just turn them off to cool down . I'd end up sitting on it in the dark

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 15:56, Arry said:

Good old buses them X-Trails Mel.

Cheers Arry

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I can honestly say , it's been the very best car I've ever had . It just ticks all the boxes for me .

I keep waiting for it to give up the ghost ( its done 180,000 ish), but it just keeps going. I'm really hoping that I can replace it with another one when it's gone.

[Greyman 29,800]

  On 14/10/2024 at 16:37, mel b said:

Had it been a bit bigger , I probably would have to be honest . I love log burners , but you can't just turn them off to cool down . I'd end up sitting on it in the dark

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These little things are great just over a foot high be perfect you can put them on a shelf out the way 

[mel b 3,014]

  On 14/10/2024 at 16:49, Greyman said:

These little things are great just over a foot high be perfect you can put them on a shelf out the way 

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If I ever bother to get myself a bigger caravan.  I'd love one of those .

[greg64 2,916]

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