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The Japs now have a well functioning country with fantastic health care, strong borders, a love for their customs and traditions.  Perhaps the ultimate winners and losers weren't who we thought t

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9 minutes ago, Greyman said:

I don’t know the stats or logistics and only have a passing interest, but I know the west were struggling to keep up production to protect Ukraine against putins well oiled machine, I think the more we stretch ourselves the more vulnerable we are becoming and more of these back woods nutters are seeing it so will throw there weight behind there side escalating this shit further, there are and never have been any winners in war 

mabe you should ask the japaneese  and the germans who the winners in war  was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki  and hiroshima ,,,

 

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16 minutes ago, Greyman said:

I don’t know the stats or logistics and only have a passing interest, but I know the west were struggling to keep up production to protect Ukraine against putins well oiled machine, I think the more we stretch ourselves the more vulnerable we are becoming and more of these back woods nutters are seeing it so will throw there weight behind there side escalating this shit further, there are and never have been any winners in war 

iran russia are allies china there behind the scenes as well these people don’t and won’t loose 

we throw in the towel all the time it’s not looking good 

 

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25 minutes ago, riohog said:

they aint  the west want iran fkd up  and the will give the yids all the kit they need to do it ..

a small amount a midsole with end israel lol 

you can’t nuclear bomb iran with all the wests allies all around lol and irans ayotalloh etc will be in the mountains anyway deep underground  lol 

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8 minutes ago, riohog said:

mabe you should ask the japaneese  and the germans who the winners in war  was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki  and hiroshima ,,,

 

i’d say germans did better than us they have more say now then us control most a europe richer then the uk 🇬🇧 

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2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i’d say germans did better than us they have more say now then us control most a europe richer then the uk 🇬🇧 

they do sell good beer  .ilgive them that; and the cars are ok  aswell  !

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6 minutes ago, riohog said:

they do sell good beer  .ilgive them that; and the cars are ok  aswell  !

that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really 

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11 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really 

fair play   krupp steel is good .i used to make knives  from 80crv2  krupp steel.

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3 hours ago, mC HULL said:

that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really 

They took over us because we got a load of spastics in government who are only in it for themselves and couldnt care less how much or our industry they take away from us

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9 minutes ago, scotty12 said:

Like I said before 

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1.5 million Russians ?? Think they may be including the russian speaking Jews in that tally the ones who emigrated after ww2 and are probably Israeli nationals 

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9 hours ago, riohog said:

mabe you should ask the japaneese  and the germans who the winners in war  was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki  and hiroshima ,,,

 

The Japs now have a well functioning country with fantastic health care, strong borders, a love for their customs and traditions. 

Perhaps the ultimate winners and losers weren't who we thought they were

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1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said:

The Japs now have a well functioning country with fantastic health care, strong borders, a love for their customs and traditions. 

Perhaps the ultimate winners and losers weren't who we thought they were

Been reading and listening to a bit about Mosley lately and more interestingly his wife Diana, an aristocrat and one of 5 sisters I think.

Her sister Unity was friends with Hitler and introduced Diana to him.

Diana said she found him an enormously charming and interesting man, her words were “You don’t go from being an out of work painter to dictator of a great nation like Germany unless there is something a bit special about you”…….which is a fair point I suppose. 

She said that Mosleys position before the war was that we should make peace with Hitler and this would have enabled us to keep our empire.

He also said that if Hitler had tried to invade he would have fought him, alongside every other Englishman, tooth and nail to the death. 

There are some YouTube videos of Diana Mosley, have to say, she is a class act in all the best traditions of aristocratic old money England and well worth a listen. 
 

However Mosley was also in favour of a single European superstate so who knows what his real position was.
 

It’s well known that Churchill knew the cost of what we did would be everything, empire included…..so who was right ?

Hindsights a great thing (especially given the grave state we find ourselves in today) and we have fought it now and many brave lads got stuck in and paid the price so it’s all academic in reality but seeing as we we are talking about who the real winners were I thought it was relevant. 

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11 hours ago, Chid said:

1.5 million Russians ?? Think they may be including the russian speaking Jews in that tally the ones who emigrated after ww2 and are probably Israeli nationals 

Just done a head count 900965

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