Greyman 28,169 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, Greyman said: I don’t know the stats or logistics and only have a passing interest, but I know the west were struggling to keep up production to protect Ukraine against putins well oiled machine, I think the more we stretch ourselves the more vulnerable we are becoming and more of these back woods nutters are seeing it so will throw there weight behind there side escalating this shit further, there are and never have been any winners in war mabe you should ask the japaneese and the germans who the winners in war was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki and hiroshima ,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,233 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 16 minutes ago, Greyman said: I don’t know the stats or logistics and only have a passing interest, but I know the west were struggling to keep up production to protect Ukraine against putins well oiled machine, I think the more we stretch ourselves the more vulnerable we are becoming and more of these back woods nutters are seeing it so will throw there weight behind there side escalating this shit further, there are and never have been any winners in war iran russia are allies china there behind the scenes as well these people don’t and won’t loose we throw in the towel all the time it’s not looking good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,233 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 25 minutes ago, riohog said: they aint the west want iran fkd up and the will give the yids all the kit they need to do it .. a small amount a midsole with end israel lol you can’t nuclear bomb iran with all the wests allies all around lol and irans ayotalloh etc will be in the mountains anyway deep underground lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,233 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, riohog said: mabe you should ask the japaneese and the germans who the winners in war was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki and hiroshima ,,, i’d say germans did better than us they have more say now then us control most a europe richer then the uk 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i’d say germans did better than us they have more say now then us control most a europe richer then the uk they do sell good beer .ilgive them that; and the cars are ok aswell ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,233 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 6 minutes ago, riohog said: they do sell good beer .ilgive them that; and the cars are ok aswell ! that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,701 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 11 minutes ago, mC HULL said: that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really fair play krupp steel is good .i used to make knives from 80crv2 krupp steel. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: that’s it good steel as well they have taken over us now a clever people really They took over us because we got a load of spastics in government who are only in it for themselves and couldnt care less how much or our industry they take away from us 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 1,888 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 Like I said before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,493 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, scotty12 said: Like I said before 1.5 million Russians ?? Think they may be including the russian speaking Jews in that tally the ones who emigrated after ww2 and are probably Israeli nationals 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,663 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, scotty12 said: Like I said before Thats over a 10th of the population Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,625 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 9 hours ago, riohog said: mabe you should ask the japaneese and the germans who the winners in war was .the japs wernt to keen on the artificial sunlight in nagasaki and hiroshima ,,, The Japs now have a well functioning country with fantastic health care, strong borders, a love for their customs and traditions. Perhaps the ultimate winners and losers weren't who we thought they were 10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,634 Posted October 3 Report Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: The Japs now have a well functioning country with fantastic health care, strong borders, a love for their customs and traditions. Perhaps the ultimate winners and losers weren't who we thought they were Been reading and listening to a bit about Mosley lately and more interestingly his wife Diana, an aristocrat and one of 5 sisters I think. Her sister Unity was friends with Hitler and introduced Diana to him. Diana said she found him an enormously charming and interesting man, her words were “You don’t go from being an out of work painter to dictator of a great nation like Germany unless there is something a bit special about you”…….which is a fair point I suppose. She said that Mosleys position before the war was that we should make peace with Hitler and this would have enabled us to keep our empire. He also said that if Hitler had tried to invade he would have fought him, alongside every other Englishman, tooth and nail to the death. There are some YouTube videos of Diana Mosley, have to say, she is a class act in all the best traditions of aristocratic old money England and well worth a listen. However Mosley was also in favour of a single European superstate so who knows what his real position was. It’s well known that Churchill knew the cost of what we did would be everything, empire included…..so who was right ? Hindsights a great thing (especially given the grave state we find ourselves in today) and we have fought it now and many brave lads got stuck in and paid the price so it’s all academic in reality but seeing as we we are talking about who the real winners were I thought it was relevant. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 1,888 Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 11 hours ago, Chid said: 1.5 million Russians ?? Think they may be including the russian speaking Jews in that tally the ones who emigrated after ww2 and are probably Israeli nationals Just done a head count 900965 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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