12 year old matechte

[big feet 324]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Far too expensive. Violent street crime and the threat of it affects ordinary people. Their peace of mind and safety are not serious considerations , except in the lead up to a general election.

We can always just moan about it and hope it goes away? Lol

 

[WILF 46,634]

18 minutes ago, big feet said:

I don't care if they care about sentencing, the longer they are locked up the less they will be a menace to society.

Wank governments yes, again which is why we need to rip up the sentencing guidelines and introduce harsher sentences for carrying knives. Of course that won't completely eradicate knife crime but it's better than moaning and saying nothing can be done.

I used to carry a knife fishing, hunting, cutting plasterboards, laying a bit of lino…..I have one in the truck now for opening feed bags.

What about hammers ?…….or rolling pins ?

What about garden spades or shovels ?

A brick ?………a cricket bat ?

What about a garden or dinner fork ? 
Carving fork ? 
 

To my knowledge I’ve never harmed anyone with any of these and neither have 99.99% of other people……but now they should get 10 year behind the door just for having them maybe ? 
 

Absolute f***ing nonsense ! 
 

Let me tell everyone this, I bet British citizens wasn’t going round offing each other with machetes prior to 40 year ago and the birth and coming of age of the 2nd & 3rd generation…….do the f***ing maths ! Lol 

[big feet 324]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

I used to carry a knife fishing, hunting, cutting plasterboards, laying a bit of lino…..I have one in the truck now for opening feed bags.

What about hammers ?…….or rolling pins ?

What about garden spades or shovels ?

A brick ?………a cricket bat ?

What about a garden or dinner fork ? 
Carving fork ? 
 

To my knowledge I’ve never harmed anyone with any of these and neither have 99.99% of other people……but now they should get 10 year behind the door just for having them maybe ? 
 

Absolute f***ing nonsense ! 
 

Let me tell everyone this, I bet British citizens wasn’t going round offing each other with machetes prior to 40 year ago and the birth and coming of age of the 2nd & 3rd generation…….do the f***ing maths ! Lol 

There's a big difference between carrying a knife to fit a carpet and carrying a knife to spill someone's guts all over the f***ing floor!

And no, you don't send someone down for ten years for carrying a knife with no malicious intent, arresting bob the chef on his way to cutting up some steak is completely different to arresting a gangster on the street FFS. And if that's your major  concern, how about a knife license, that would be too hard I take it? 

Ok, so if your only concern is the route cause then how about more effort in to tackling gang culture, there's a start?

[WILF 46,634]

Just now, big feet said:

There's a big difference between carrying a knife to fit a carpet and carrying a knife to spill someone's guts all over the f***ing floor!

And no, you don't send someone down for ten years for carrying a knife with no malicious intent, arresting bob the chef on his way to cutting up some steak is completely different to arresting a gangster on the street FFS. And if that's your major  concern, how about a knife license, that would be too hard I take it? 

Ok, so if your only concern is the route cause then how about more effort in to tackling gang culture, there's a start?

Have they started employing policemen who can read minds now then ?……..please, tell me, how exactly can you distinguish when a 12 year old  (or any age) tells you he is carrying a machete to go and cut back a few branches in a fishing spot or sort out his granny’s over grown tree in the garden or when he is going to stick it in someone’s head outside the local fried chicken shop ?………how do you do that ?

Just by looking or what ?

[big feet 324]

Just now, WILF said:

Have they started employing policemen who can read minds now then ?……..please, tell me, how exactly can you distinguish when a 12 year old  (or any age) tells you he is carrying a machete to go and cut back a few branches in a fishing spot or sort out his granny’s over grown tree in the garden or when he is going to stick it in someone’s head outside the local fried chicken shop ?………how do you do that ?

Just by looking or what ?

You can't account for every permutation no, like anything. But introducing a knife license would be a start, more effort in to school programs pointing out it's severity, tackling gang culture, all options, but let's not do anything yeah? 

[WILF 46,634]

5 minutes ago, big feet said:

You can't account for every permutation no, like anything. But introducing a knife license would be a start, more effort in to school programs pointing out it's severity, tackling gang culture, all options, but let's not do anything yeah? 

Yeah, what we need is to regulate innocent people more because 3rd world savages and their shit culture have taken over the country……yeah, nice one ! Lol 

You do realise that it would be some 45 year old white bloke with a penknife getting nicked don’t you ?……absolute f***ing ludicrous ! Lol 

I know you don’t actually believe it yourself but it’s an interesting conversation if for no other reason than to highlight the childlike proposition of you can legislate your way out of a genetic disease ! 

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[chartpolski 23,201]

The government will f**k this up as all governments do. 
They will bring in draconian laws about owning and carrying knives, maybe even licensing certain knives.

The people who will suffer will be the bloke walking his dog and having a Swiss Army knife in his pocket or a bloke like me going to his allotment with an opinel pruning knife.

Every prosecution for carrying a knife will be hailed as “winning the war on knife crime” but the wrong people will be targeted.

The wrong’uns will still carry on no matter, but the everyday bloke going about his business will suffer.

Theres a precedent for this, the banning of hand guns didn’t stop the criminals obtaining and using them ; it just made the British Olympic Shooting Team keep there guns in France and practice there !! 
In my mind , forget banning knives, make possession of one without good reason result in a minimum two year jail sentence.

Having a Swiss Army knife in your pocket while walking your dog in the countryside is a good reason….  Having a machete inside your hoody on a Friday night in town isn’t !

Beig in possession of , threatening to use, or using a knife in the commission of a crime should carry a mandatory ten year jail sentence.

Aggressive Stop & Search should be initiated immediately, irrespective of race or colour.

Cheers,

[big feet 324]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Yeah, what we need is to regulate innocent people more because 3rd world savages and their shit culture have taken over the country……yeah, nice one ! Lol 

You do realise that it would be some 45 year old white bloke with a penknife getting nicked don’t you ?……absolute f***ing ludicrous ! Lol 

I know you don’t actually believe it yourself but it’s an interesting conversation if for no other reason than to highlight the childlike proposition of you can legislate your way out of a genetic disease ! 

Yeah because no white man has ever stabbed anyone have they, no white man has ever been involved in gang crime as well. So if you don't want to bring in knife restrictions, don't want to tackle gang culture, what do you suggest we do?

[big feet 324]

8 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The government will f**k this up as all governments do. 
They will bring in draconian laws about owning and carrying knives, maybe even licensing certain knives.

The people who will suffer will be the bloke walking his dog and having a Swiss Army knife in his pocket or a bloke like me going to his allotment with an opinel pruning knife.

Every prosecution for carrying a knife will be hailed as “winning the war on knife crime” but the wrong people will be targeted.

The wrong’uns will still carry on no matter, but the everyday bloke going about his business will suffer.

Theres a precedent for this, the banning of hand guns didn’t stop the criminals obtaining and using them ; it just made the British Olympic Shooting Team keep there guns in France and practice there !! 
In my mind , forget banning knives, make possession of one without good reason result in a minimum two year jail sentence.

Having a Swiss Army knife in your pocket while walking your dog in the countryside is a good reason….  Having a machete inside your hoody on a Friday night in town isn’t !

Beig in possession of , threatening to use, or using a knife in the commission of a crime should carry a mandatory ten year jail sentence.

Aggressive Stop & Search should be initiated immediately, irrespective of race or colour.

Cheers,

If you held a license why would it bother you if you got stopped? It would never happen because police wouldn't stop & search a man walking to an allotment. Stop & search would be deployed in our cities which is desperately needed. I don't want a knife license introduction, as you say, it won't really stop gang members carrying knives, harsher sentences will deter some though and that is a net win.

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12 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The government will f**k this up as all governments do. 
They will bring in draconian laws about owning and carrying knives, maybe even licensing certain knives.

The people who will suffer will be the bloke walking his dog and having a Swiss Army knife in his pocket or a bloke like me going to his allotment with an opinel pruning knife.

Every prosecution for carrying a knife will be hailed as “winning the war on knife crime” but the wrong people will be targeted.

The wrong’uns will still carry on no matter, but the everyday bloke going about his business will suffer.

Theres a precedent for this, the banning of hand guns didn’t stop the criminals obtaining and using them ; it just made the British Olympic Shooting Team keep there guns in France and practice there !! 
In my mind , forget banning knives, make possession of one without good reason result in a minimum two year jail sentence.

Having a Swiss Army knife in your pocket while walking your dog in the countryside is a good reason….  Having a machete inside your hoody on a Friday night in town isn’t !

Beig in possession of , threatening to use, or using a knife in the commission of a crime should carry a mandatory ten year jail sentence.

Aggressive Stop & Search should be initiated immediately, irrespective of race or colour.

Cheers,

a mandatory sentence of 10 years in jail, theres no fcukin room in jail, they are kicking folks out to make room fer the rioters, and those that are being released warly are still commiting crime,    harsher sentencies, wont deter the brain dead , im going to hide behind my curtains now, and hope it goes away 

[chartpolski 23,201]

3 minutes ago, big feet said:

If you held a license why would it bother you if you got stopped? It would never happen because police wouldn't stop & search a man walking to an allotment. 

Let me give you a first hand experience;

Woodga, LDR and myself were walking between rabbiting permission’s and the police stopped us and searched us and issued us with notices”suspected of poaching “, even though they saw the permission letters and spoke to the farmers. The police simply wanted to report  at the end of their shift that they had made a ‘collar’, they had nothing on us but still issued the notices.

I walk to my allotments twice a day with my dogs over fields that have a public right of way but I have regular run ins with the keeper and the farmer. If the police were called I would be in the right, but I’ve no doubt the police would search me and if I was carrying a knife I’m sure it would depend on the policeman’s outlook what the result would be ! 
I know most of your replies are designed  to provoke a response, that’s ok, that’s what forums are about, but just saying the opposite to everyone else isn really debate.

Cheers,

[WILF 46,634]

33 minutes ago, big feet said:

Yeah because no white man has ever stabbed anyone have they, no white man has ever been involved in gang crime as well. So if you don't want to bring in knife restrictions, don't want to tackle gang culture, what do you suggest we do?

You are the Milli Vanilli of posters, the words come out but you have no mind of what you are saying ! Lol 

[big feet 324]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Let me give you a first hand experience;

Woodga, LDR and myself were walking between rabbiting permission’s and the police stopped us and searched us and issued us with notices”suspected of poaching “, even though they saw the permission letters and spoke to the farmers. The police simply wanted to report  at the end of their shift that they had made a ‘collar’, they had nothing on us but still issued the notices.

I walk to my allotments twice a day with my dogs over fields that have a public right of way but I have regular run ins with the keeper and the farmer. If the police were called I would be in the right, but I’ve no doubt the police would search me and if I was carrying a knife I’m sure it would depend on the policeman’s outlook what the result would be ! 
I know most of your replies are designed  to provoke a response, that’s ok, that’s what forums are about, but just saying the opposite to everyone else isn really debate.

Cheers,

But as I said, if you had a knife license why would it bother you if they pulled out your knife if they searched you?

You are complaining about the inconvenience yet have just proposed stop & search on the streets, make your mind up? 

[big feet 324]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

You are the Milli Vanilli of posters, the words come out but you have no mind of what you are saying ! Lol 

You just waffle bollocks and bring up no solutions, 3rd world this, 3rd world that, all you are good for is venting on a forum! Lol

Again, tell me your solutions, you have none, that's why you dodge the question. Lol

[WILF 46,634]

Just now, big feet said:

You just waffle bollocks and bring up no solutions, 3rd world this, 3rd world that, all you are good for is venting on a forum! Lol

Again, tell me your solutions, you have none, that's why you dodge the question. Lol

 

Nice one ! Lol