jukel123 7,957 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 (edited) Met a bloke last night who is a boss man on the UK's levelling up programme. I told him I'd seen no evidence of levelling up in my part of the world. He said he wasn't surprised, Britain has spent 809 million on levelling up. When Germany reunified and decided to level up, East Germany's GDP was only 60% of West Germany. Its now 85%. And they have spent over 2 trillion in bridging the gap. That's 71 billion a year since 1990. East Germany is now performing a lot better than the North of England. East Germans have seen their standard of living sky rocket as well as their public services. Their average old age pension is £ 1308 per month ours is officially £884 but not many get that full amount. East Germans have had a visit from Santa. We've just had a visit from Scrooge who cut our pension. But Starmer did say it was a difficult decision so that's OK then. This bloke said when he first started touring the North of England he was shocked at the poverty and lack of investment. He had lived in the rich South all his life. Food for thought. Edited September 9 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,409 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 That's been part of the problem mate the North has been forgotten for decades then again a lot of Northern towns councils haven't got a clue or the vision to spend the leveling up money sensibly. Take Rotherham Council for example they have spent millions on bike lanes that hardly anyone ever uses and they are in the process of spending millions more on the dead end town a new cinema has just recently opened as they are hoping the footfall into the town will increase but with meadow hall and Parkgate retail world within a short distance of the town I honestly think the money should have been spent on surrounding ex pit villages and Council estates to make the lives of hard working folk who live in them a bit better. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,118 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, tatsblisters said: That's been part of the problem mate the North has been forgotten for decades then again a lot of Northern towns councils haven't got a clue or the vision to spend the leveling up money sensibly. Take Rotherham Council for example they have spent millions on bike lanes that hardly anyone ever uses and they are in the process of spending millions more on the dead end town a new cinema has just recently opened as they are hoping the footfall into the town will increase but with meadow hall and Parkgate retail world within a short distance of the town I honestly think the money should have been spent on surrounding ex pit villages and Council estates to make the lives of hard working folk who live in them a bit better. there putting bike lanes in changing road marking to purposely cause congestion theres no other reason for what they are doing mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,409 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: there putting bike lanes in changing road marking to purposely cause congestion theres no other reason for what they are doing mate I agree mate it's complete madness what our Council have done . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted September 9 Author Report Share Posted September 9 It's hopeless having councillors who are amateurs building f****n bike lanes. It needs to be done by people with a bit of expertise. Maybe draft in some jerries to show us how it's done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,118 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, tatsblisters said: I agree mate it's complete madness what our Council have done . same here mate into town took one lane for bikes then to from work its added an hour for people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: there putting bike lanes in changing road marking to purposely cause congestion theres no other reason for what they are doing mate I'm not sure mate, the trouble is they're useless c**ts that couldn't run a bath. Have you seen the set up in the Netherlands, they have an amazing system for bikers, it's a great idea mate if done right, brilliant for health & fitness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,118 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, jukel123 said: It's hopeless having councillors who are amateurs building f****n bike lanes. It needs to be done by people with a bit of expertise. Maybe draft in some jerries to show us how it's done. its about ulez schemes 15 minute citys nothing else why have pushbikes on the road instead of the path Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,118 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, big feet said: I'm not sure mate, the trouble is they're useless c**ts that couldn't run a bath. Have you seen the set up in the Netherlands, they have an amazing system for bikers, it's a great idea mate if done right, brilliant for health & fitness. ? have you been around the netherlands lol but i agree biking is all positives 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Just now, mC HULL said: ? have you been around the netherlands lol but i agree biking is all positives Amsterdam yes, and have driven through the Netherlands, as well as France, Belgium & Germany and the Dutch had the best motorways. They have a stronger bicycle culture than us, that is a positive in my eyes. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted September 9 Author Report Share Posted September 9 I like to get out on my bike. But I'd rather see more employment and decent houses than bike lanes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I like to get out on my bike. But I'd rather see more employment and decent houses than bike lanes. To be fair mate even some of the most deprived areas of Northern England have seen improvements in housing, Goldthorpe where I'm from, Grimethorpe, yes that's a real place. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 This is the street I grew up in, our old house is the one with the palm tree, the rest of the street was all terraces, but they have at least built some newer bungalow council houses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,118 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, big feet said: This is the street I grew up in, our old house is the one with the palm tree, the rest of the street was all terraces, but they have at least built some newer bungalow council houses. a 2 up 2 down terrace as me old lady would say lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Just now, mC HULL said: a 2 up 2 down terrace as me old lady would say lol Our houses at the bottom were the posh part lol. Our back garden was on to some allotments and straight on to the old pit & woods, the best of times pal, kids don't have it the same. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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