TRUEBRIT66 1,517 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 37 minutes ago, scotty12 said: Is mad as this sounds but hopefully the budget is as bad as can be tomorrow. people are needing this budget to directly affect daily life in a negative way so they can grow a backbone and stand up to these rat b*****ds. I get what you mean. There has never been a budget that has ever made the ordinary working person better off so much so its been life changing. Its always take that little bit more to keep you compliant but not enough to push you over the edge. The poll tax was the closest it came to going too far. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 at what point does the leader of the country let an old women get pushed back for talking to him this country Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) On 28/10/2024 at 14:47, DIDO.1 said: Can't disagree with that. But.... I've always been an in it to win it type of person.... saying we are going to abandon a really new party because of a few poorly thought out comments? Keep going down that path and we will all be sat in out bedrooms flicking through our old BNP / NF leaflets dreaming of what could of been like gnasher Its a pity chaps like you didnt get behind them years ago or you might not all be scratching your arses crying your eyes out at the state the country is in now. Wasnt you on here a little while ago trying to drum up subscribers to Heritage & Destiny ? .....you're jumping about all over the place mate decide whether you want to be a true Nationalist or one of these plastic patriots who align themselves to pieces of paper !.....so last week you were behind Nationalism and this week your're behind good ol " blokey bloke " Farage,a consummate showman with a carefully crafted image who is nothing less and more importantly nothing more than an old school Tory.....so where does him banning Nationalists from joining his party sit with a Nationalist like you ? ..... you seem to be in full support of Robinson as well,another one who has never made his hatred for Nationalists a secret and on many occasions referred to true Nationalists as his enemy.....wasnt it only the other day that he said Indians replacing the native British population would be a good thing ffs ! This is the trouble with some of you chaps who have been frightened into believing that its racist to put our own people in our own country first.....2 " blokey blokes " like Farage and Robinson have been held up for you to align to as this " new " far right in order that true authentic Nationalism ( which governments are absolutely terrified of ) be hushed away never to be seen or heard again in the hope that nobody ever again identifies with each other via ethnicity.......these " blokey blokes " you hold in such high regard are controlled opposition that plastic patriot hobbyist types who rejected honest true patriotism years ago can now get behind and " appear " all patriotic.....chaps like you will call civic Nationalism a compromise,id call it a cop out no different to years ago. Edited October 29 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,637 Posted October 30 Author Report Share Posted October 30 8 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Its a pity chaps like you didnt get behind them years ago or you might not all be scratching your arses crying your eyes out at the state the country is in now. Wasnt you on here a little while ago trying to drum up subscribers to Heritage & Destiny ? .....you're jumping about all over the place mate decide whether you want to be a true Nationalist or one of these plastic patriots who align themselves to pieces of paper !.....so last week you were behind Nationalism and this week your're behind good ol " blokey bloke " Farage,a consummate showman with a carefully crafted image who is nothing less and more importantly nothing more than an old school Tory.....so where does him banning Nationalists from joining his party sit with a Nationalist like you ? ..... you seem to be in full support of Robinson as well,another one who has never made his hatred for Nationalists a secret and on many occasions referred to true Nationalists as his enemy.....wasnt it only the other day that he said Indians replacing the native British population would be a good thing ffs ! This is the trouble with some of you chaps who have been frightened into believing that its racist to put our own people in our own country first.....2 " blokey blokes " like Farage and Robinson have been held up for you to align to as this " new " far right in order that true authentic Nationalism ( which governments are absolutely terrified of ) be hushed away never to be seen or heard again in the hope that nobody ever again identifies with each other via ethnicity.......these " blokey blokes " you hold in such high regard are controlled opposition that plastic patriot hobbyist types who rejected honest true patriotism years ago can now get behind and " appear " all patriotic.....chaps like you will call civic Nationalism a compromise,id call it a cop out no different to years ago. I did 'get behind them years ago'. I'm not quite as old as you and a lot of that movement died while I was still very young. Died being the operative word. I've spent many evenings leafleting for the BNP .... Indeed I've been out leafleting for the editor of heritage and destiny when he has stood in various guises. Ok, I want to be a true racial nationalists. What should I do? Sit under my stairs wearing my vintage BNP t shirt hoping one day people wake up? We either give up or try and effect some change. Tommy Robinson may be a total fake....but his woken people up, highlighted issues and put a huge number of younger people in a position where they are open to nationalism. Without him there would be zero movement today....if you believe in him or not. Farage etc? Again they maybe establishment stodges....but how else are you going to move anything forward? Nick griffin? Mate I've help loads of small candidates for small racial nationalist parties.... should I stand for one and loose my deposit as well? If I go canvassing I've got to knock on people's doors in my community.... and everyone has a friend or work mate who none white....goose stepping down the drive talking about Jews and racial purity isn't going to get us any further than you ever got.....and i really say that with respect, im not trying to take the pis. Down the pub we would get on and agree 100% on most things. You say I'm jumping about all over the place...I'd say I can fight for what I believe in on numerous fronts 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,508 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 On 29/10/2024 at 11:10, scotty12 said: Is mad as this sounds but hopefully the budget is as bad as can be tomorrow. people are needing this budget to directly affect daily life in a negative way so they can grow a backbone and stand up to these rat b*****ds. So what do you think of the budget yesterday mate only thing I came to the conclusion it's going to be devastating to small businesses and we are all going to be paying more tax. I have seen ex miners like myself praising the Labour government as they are going to give us a bigger share of our pension pot. It was our fekin money to start with and it's like the school yard bully taking sweets off you to then give you them back due to pressure and protest and then go on to thank him. Lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,536 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 i dont think it was as bad as i thought it would be Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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scotty12 1,898 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 6 hours ago, tatsblisters said: So what do you think of the budget yesterday mate only thing I came to the conclusion it's going to be devastating to small businesses and we are all going to be paying more tax. I have seen ex miners like myself praising the Labour government as they are going to give us a bigger share of our pension pot. It was our fekin money to start with and it's like the school yard bully taking sweets off you to then give you them back due to pressure and protest and then go on to thank him. Lol 40 billion or something there bringing in from increases that's 40 billion you or I or any one else aren't going to see a penny of or benefit from. they seem to be chipping away the farmers and destroying them bit by bit simple as this no farmers = no food 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Lenmcharristar 9,731 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, scotty12 said: I always look forward to your posts scotty, cant wait til the 5th see what happens, im praying for the trump victory, too big to rig 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,243 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 2 hours ago, scotty12 said: they seem to be chipping away the farmers and destroying them bit by bit simple as this no farmers = no food They aren’t “chipping away “ at them mate; they are going to destroy family owned farms. Up to now, farms and agricultural land had zero rated Inheritance Tax, meaning a farmer could pass on his farm to his children when he died. Now Labour has put 20% Inheritance Tax on farms and agricultural land. Family farmers are normally asset rich, ( land, buildings, equipment, stock, etc), but cash poor. Now if a farmer dies his family won’t have the cash to pay the “death duties” and will have to sell up to pay the tax. Big business will buy up the land, leave it fallow or put trees on it to offset their Eco Taxes, meaning less food grown here and more imports. It stinks, but hey , who would have though Labour wouldn’t tax everything they could think of … Cheers. 7 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gypsydog94 4,561 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: They aren’t “chipping away “ at them mate; they are going to destroy family owned farms. Up to now, farms and agricultural land had zero rated Inheritance Tax, meaning a farmer could pass on his farm to his children when he died. Now Labour has put 20% Inheritance Tax on farms and agricultural land. Family farmers are normally asset rich, ( land, buildings, equipment, stock, etc), but cash poor. Now if a farmer dies his family won’t have the cash to pay the “death duties” and will have to sell up to pay the tax. Big business will buy up the land, leave it fallow or put trees on it to offset their Eco Taxes, meaning less food grown here and more imports. It stinks, but hey , who would have though Labour wouldn’t tax everything they could think of … Cheers. Doesn’t come into force till 2026 so hopefully they will be gone and the decision reversed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WataWalloper 339 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gypsydog94 said: Doesn’t come into force till 2026 so hopefully they will be gone and the decision reversed Already having an effect tho, I know 2 estates local who are selling up an calling it quits, none are proper farmers so to speak but they have 13 tenent farms between them an all have been told they being sold, that’s 13 familes of varying size being made to walk away from there lifes work if they can’t come up with the cash to buy them Edited October 31 by WataWalloper 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 744 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 4 hours ago, scotty12 said: 40 billion or something there bringing in from increases that's 40 billion you or I or any one else aren't going to see a penny of or benefit from. they seem to be chipping away the farmers and destroying them bit by bit simple as this no farmers = no food no farmers=no camp sites 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,263 Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 11 hours ago, tatsblisters said: So what do you think of the budget yesterday mate only thing I came to the conclusion it's going to be devastating to small businesses and we are all going to be paying more tax. I have seen ex miners like myself praising the Labour government as they are going to give us a bigger share of our pension pot. It was our fekin money to start with and it's like the school yard bully taking sweets off you to then give you them back due to pressure and protest and then go on to thank him. Lol comes to mind mate 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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