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[Borr 5,680]

1 hour ago, Bakerboy said:

Just watched Richard Tice on GB News say " we will not align with that Tommy Robinson lot "

I think that would be political suicide, he's in prison on terror charges. If reform are to stand a chance in mainstream politics then they can't get involved with Robinson . They're separate entities anyway. 

[DIDO.1 22,417]

1 hour ago, Borr said:

I think that would be political suicide, he's in prison on terror charges. If reform are to stand a chance in mainstream politics then they can't get involved with Robinson . They're separate entities anyway. 

They are separate.... and it's a very fine line. The left win because they will always unite, willingly with other groups to their mutual benefit. Look at the gays, far left and the islamists!!

The right always loose because they are so ready to fracture and try to distance themselves from each other. A bit like fieldsports do

[DIDO.1 22,417]

Launch of an area branch membership group!! Really positive numbers 

[Bakerboy 4,497]

1 hour ago, Borr said:

I think that would be political suicide, he's in prison on terror charges. If reform are to stand a chance in mainstream politics then they can't get involved with Robinson . They're separate entities anyway. 

He was commenting on the people on the march

[mackem 25,975]

1 minute ago, Bakerboy said:

He was commenting on the people on the march

I think there was only 3 arrests, the march was totally peaceful to be honest. 

[Gypsydog94 4,544]

6 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

Not too clued up on politics or the ins an outs a tax an stuff but from what iv heard the last week or so most farmers are worried there land be worth fcuk all soon an most will be out business quick style, British farming jist don’t seem to be worth the hard graft for most now these days, sad but true 

I think the farmers who have borrowed plenty of money on their asset are the ones that are worried. Could soon fall into negative equity. Land could ease back abit but there not making more so will never will be worthless 

[Leo Sayer 2,284]

10 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

Not too clued up on politics or the ins an outs a tax an stuff but from what iv heard the last week or so most farmers are worried there land be worth fcuk all soon an most will be out business quick style, British farming jist don’t seem to be worth the hard graft for most now these days, sad but true 

Aye the little old dairy farmer I get milk and cream off for work is struggling. I could get it cheaper but i don't to support local small businesses . Also some of the other farmers who come in my buisness are starting to diversify.  One is doing camping and opened a cafe were u can walk the dogs. Another is doing hog roast nights. Just trying there hardest to make some coin.  Will have to see what the budget brings, but it won't be good I am sure. 

Edited Monday at 03:07 by Leo Sayer

[mC HULL 12,070]

On 11/09/2024 at 18:23, jukel123 said:

Carbon offsetting is a con. Agreed. But re_ wilding is vital imo. The problem of smaller farmers being bought up by huge factory farmers is immense.  Dairy farmers in particular are all being bought up by the big boys. Pig and chicken farming is the same. The goal is always cheap food for the consumer and lower welfare for the animals. Pile em high, fill em full of antibiotics and sell em cheap. The supermarkets are our enemy as well as our friend. One thing is certain. There's going to be more Covid like epidemics coming from birds, pigs and cattle which are intensively reared. And more livestock shit appearing in our rivers and water supply.

On that cheerful note of doom and gloom. I bid thee all good evening.

lol 

[gnasher16 30,021]

13 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

Launch of an area branch membership group!! Really positive numbers 

I might be getting you mixed up with somebody else so forgive me if im wrong but are you not the same chap who was in full out support of Patriotic Alternative not so long ago ........bit of change of stance no ? 

[DIDO.1 22,417]

11 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

I might be getting you mixed up with somebody else so forgive me if im wrong but are you not the same chap who was in full out support of Patriotic Alternative not so long ago ........bit of change of stance no ? 

I'm in support of anyone who takes an active stance for our country. 

PA are keeping some parts of the patriot movement alive which would otherwise die. 

Reform are the only party at the minute that stand a chance of actually changing anything.

The left win because they can unite gays and Muslims for the mutual benefit. The right die because they destroy their own. 

[kanny 20,373]

Not good optics given a lot of their voting base will at least have sympathies with TR.....Who has just received 18 months incidentally 

 

[TRUEBRIT66 1,490]

5 minutes ago, kanny said:

Not good optics given a lot of their voting base will at least have sympathies with TR.....Who has just received 18 months incidentally 

 

Nick Teconi from UKIP did a blinding speech on Saturday. 

I'm afraid Richard Tice's comments have lost mine and my families Reform vote. Tice could quite easily had said we do not stand with Robinson in away shape or form but understand why so many do, and left it at that. 

[kanny 20,373]

1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Nick Teconi from UKIP did a blinding speech on Saturday. 

I'm afraid Richard Tice's comments have lost mine and my families Reform vote. Tice could quite easily had said we do not stand with Robinson in away shape or form but understand why so many do, and left it at that. 

I think a lot will follow you over this...the Internet certainly isn't happy with Tice from what I'm seeing 

[mackay 3,300]

I understand why a lot of people are pissed off with Tice and therefore reform. But In my humble opinion the only way things will change (other than a full blown revolution, which might be what is required) is by a political party, sqeaky clean , whiter than white taking council seats then councils then having mp's to make changes. Other than that there will be no recognition or respect for our views. I take my hat off to the people that gathered and marched, but lets be brutally honest it will make not a jot of difference. It's people venting their anger and frustration and then going home and the establishment breathing a sigh of relief saying f**k you and carrying on shafting us. 500,000 people marched through London at the countryside march.  It made not one bit of difference.

[low plains drifter 10,215]