DIDO.1 22,818 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 31 minutes ago, Pewit said: Should we take every meme as gospel without checking for any truth? When Dido posted that I did a quick check, and yes a 15 year old was beheaded for listening to music during prayer, but it was done by ISIS Jihadists. My point was nobody can compare things like the troubles in Ireland to the plague that is islam 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 2 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: My point was nobody can compare things like the troubles in Ireland to the plague that is islam I wasn't comparing the Troubles to Islam, I was asking the question whether law abiding Irish catholics should have been deported for the actions of the IRA which I think most agree would be absurd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 8 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: My point was nobody can compare things like the troubles in Ireland to the plague that is islam Irish Republicans want a united Ireland, Islamists want a world united by islam, no comparison as yoy say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Bakerboy said: Irish Republicans want a united Ireland, Islamists want a world united by islam, no comparison as yoy say Again that wasn't my point, but does wanting a united Ireland justify bombing Britain mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Just now, Pewit said: Again that wasn't my point, but does wanting a united Ireland justify bombing Britain mate? No, murdering innocents is never justified Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Bakerboy said: No, murdering innocents is never justified Correct, but it would have been very unfair to blame all the Irish catholics for the actions of the IRA. I'm sure the majority of these people were horrified by those attacks. My point is whether you agree with mass immigration or not, you can't blame a whole population for the acts of a few. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 It was clearly a massive mistake allowing in the numbers of immigrants from completely different cultures in to the UK, especially when the vast majority are coming from regions where they suffer from extreme poverty. But I've said it a million times, they are here now, generations deep and they are here to stay. It's no good moaning about what we would like done, that's just unrealistic and it will never happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 4 minutes ago, Pewit said: Correct, but it would have been very unfair to blame all the Irish catholics for the actions of the IRA. I'm sure the majority of these people were horrified by those attacks. My point is whether you agree with mass immigration or not, you can't blame a whole population for the acts of a few. Sorry mate but Ive got to disagree with you there, islam is an expansionist cult/religion, the more of them there are in this country the closer they get to what they want Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Just now, Bakerboy said: Sorry mate but Ive got to disagree with you there, islam is an expansionist cult/religion, the more of them there are in this country the closer they get to what they want I think that would happen with every people/religion mate. If a population gets a strong foothold in a country then they will call for changes. The key problem is we allowed to many in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Pewit said: The key problem is we allowed to many in. I wont argue with that mate but by now we should know enough to stop them coming in and start removing the illegals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 This sums them up for me 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 1 minute ago, Bakerboy said: I wont argue with that mate but by now we should know enough to stop them coming in and start removing the illegals Yes, we could start by being more strict on asylum seekers, deporting criminals, extremists, etc. As for pulling out of the ECHR, yes we could do that, but we then could be potentially opening a can of worms in the future, let's not forget that the ECHR covers a lot of situations, which can include domestic issues, it could bite us in the arse further down the line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 37 minutes ago, Pewit said: Yes, we could start by being more strict on asylum seekers, deporting criminals, extremists, etc. As for pulling out of the ECHR, yes we could do that, but we then could be potentially opening a can of worms in the future, let's not forget that the ECHR covers a lot of situations, which can include domestic issues, it could bite us in the arse further down the line. I never mentioned the ECHR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 3 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: I never mentioned the ECHR Many on here suggest we leave it so we can put a stop to people claiming asylum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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