iworkwhippets 12,426 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 Just now, paddyluke said: you are losing it now you can't give an answer, i've never said that there were illegal immigrants in the NHS or that we needed them stop talking silly buggers paddy theres a good lad, im awaiting to go into hospital for a minor op.just a day job, i will make enquiries, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 683 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, iworkwhippets said: stop talking silly buggers paddy theres a good lad, im awaiting to go into hospital for a minor op.just a day job, i will make enquiries, i do hope the answer is " no illegal immigrants working in NHS" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, paddyluke said: you are losing it now you can't give an answer, i've never said that there were illegal immigrants in the NHS or that we needed them I'm losing what, are you ok mate? You asked how many illegals were working in the NHS, as in you don't believe any are so? I thought you had the figures hence your post at IWW? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, paddyluke said: i do hope the answer is " no illegal immigrants working in NHS" Sadly mate that's not true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,426 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 in all honesty, and joking apart , 2023, six operations, one of which went wrong and i was rushed back into surgery, 2 ampitations, numerous hospital appointments, scans, i couldnt give a monkies flange immigrants illegal , legal, male female, i had em all round me, im still standin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 683 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 34 minutes ago, Pewit said: Sadly mate that's not true. it does not say illegal immigrants, it just says refugee/asylum seekers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 Just now, paddyluke said: it does not say illegal immigrants, it just says refugee/asylum seekers An illegal immigrant is someone who arrives here and doesn't notify the authorities of their arrival. As for asylum seekers, if they are granted refugee status then they can go on to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,216 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 57 minutes ago, Pewit said: Sadly mate that's not true. Let’s rephrase a line of that: “………..the REACHE programme has taken £6.5 million that you paid in away from educating your kids and given it to asylum seekers” 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 8 minutes ago, WILF said: Let’s rephrase a line of that: “………..the REACHE programme has taken £6.5 million that you paid in away from educating your kids and given it to asylum seekers” Yep, but this is the reality of the situation. Those accepted for asylum can and do work in the NHS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,216 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 Just now, Pewit said: Yep, but this is the reality of the situation. Those accepted for asylum can and do work in the NHS. I know mate…… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I know mate…… I don't understand why asylum seekers housed in hotels aren't allowed to work or at least do community service, our governments are absolute morons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,619 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, Pewit said: I don't understand why asylum seekers housed in hotels aren't allowed to work or at least do community service, our governments are absolute morons. It’s because if they are allowed to work, their immigration lawyers will be able to use it as evidence at the asylum tribunal that the claimant is an asset to the country, and deserves to be granted asylum. Plus, if they are asylum seekers who have not been granted asylum, they won’t have an NI number, an NHS number, a tax code or any other relevant documents needed to legally work here. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: It’s because if they are allowed to work, their immigration lawyers will be able to use it as evidence at the asylum tribunal that the claimant is an asset to the country, and deserves to be granted asylum. Plus, if they are asylum seekers who have not been granted asylum, they won’t have an NI number, an NHS number, a tax code or any other relevant documents needed to legally work here. Cheers. TBF mate I don't think they need to be deemed an asset to the country to be granted asylum? They receive a pre-paid debit card, it wouldn't take much effort to offer them more payment should they opt to work. At least get them out doing community service, better than being stuck in a hotel all day & night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,619 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Pewit said: TBF mate I don't think they need to be deemed an asset to the country to be granted asylum? They receive a pre-paid debit card, it wouldn't take much effort to offer them more payment should they opt to work. At least get them out doing community service, better than being stuck in a hotel all day & night. It would be a legal minefield to allow unregistered aliens, ( asylum seekers), to work, mate. What would happen if they got injured at work ? How long before a lefty lawyer took the UK to the ECHR saying that asylum seekers were basically being used as slave Labour, not getting the same rights and benefits as a legal worker. I would gladly put them to work cleaning graffiti, picking up litter, etc but it’s never going to happen for the reasons I’ve mentioned. Cheers. Edited August 19 by chartpolski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 969 Posted August 19 Report Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: It would be a legal minefield to allow unregistered aliens, ( asylum seekers), to work, mate. What would happen if they got injured at work ? How long before a lefty lawyer took the UK to the ECHR saying that asylum seekers were basically being used as slave Labour, not getting the same rights and benefits as a legal worker. I would gladly put them to work cleaning graffiti, picking up litter, etc but it’s never going to happen for the reasons I’ve mentioned. Cheers. Mate they are housed here for months and even years before their claims are processed. They would receive treatment like any other worker, no? It's an avenue worth exploring, with the incentives of extra payments make it optional, no forced labour required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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