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11 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

The only deterrent is stopping all benefits for illegals, housing aswell

They don't get benefits if they are illegals, the key is in the world illegal. An illegal immigrant is someone who slips the net.

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3 minutes ago, Pewit said:

They don't get benefits if they are illegals, the key is in the world illegal. An illegal immigrant is someone who slips the net.

Well are you saying those on the dinghys are here legally?

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3 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well are you saying those on the dinghys are here legally?

Yes, providing they make the authorities aware of their arrival. They then will have to go through the asylum process. That's the current law and process. If that process is not strict enough and whether you, I or anyone else agrees with it is a different matter.

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32 minutes ago, Pewit said:

Then it would be just a game of asylum seeker ping pong between us & France lol.

We have to work together with the EU and put forward some sensible measure.

You've cracked it. Why don't we give France half a billion pounds so that they patrol the beaches and deter migrants crossing.  Oh, wait.

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3 minutes ago, mackay said:

You've cracked it. Why don't we give France half a billion pounds so that they patrol the beaches and deter migrants crossing.  Oh, wait.

And the French still claim that's not enough. So again, what do we do if the French can't/won't prevent the crossings? Don't you think it would be wise to try and crack the smuggling gangs?

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42 minutes ago, Pewit said:

They don't get benefits if they are illegals, the key is in the world illegal. An illegal immigrant is someone who slips the net.

They do get benifits if there illegals mate,remember there fleeing "war" an need help.....

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Just now, Francie, said:

They do get benifits if there illegals mate,remember there fleeing "war" an need help.....

Incorrect, they are illegals if they don't report themselves to the authorities. You are talking about asylum seekers that are following process.

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4 minutes ago, Pewit said:

And the French still claim that's not enough. So again, what do we do if the French can't/won't prevent the crossings? Don't you think it would be wise to try and crack the smuggling gangs?

Pointless, we need to prevent them claiming benefits/using nhs for a period of years of proven work. Legal or illegal 

As for where to ship them Rwanda will do , or set up an island somewhere unless they can come up with their country of origin, then a flight home. 

The benefits system is abused by all creeds and religious faiths but it's basically become a business model. 

 

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1 hour ago, Pewit said:

That's a suggestion and dependent on whether we are willing to accept the ramifications. As for flights home, if they are here without ID, where do we deport them to? 

Kick em out above any 3rd word shit hole 

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3 minutes ago, Borr said:

Pointless, we need to prevent them claiming benefits/using nhs for a period of years of proven work. Legal or illegal 

As for where to ship them Rwanda will do , or set up an island somewhere unless they can come up with their country of origin, then a flight home. 

The benefits system is abused by all creeds and religious faiths but it's basically become a business model. 

 

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That's a fair point, but if they are working,  paying tax and National Insurance aren't they already paying towards the NHS? But yes, we could make them take out health insurance until they have payed into the system but that's not going to deter them from coming here.

As for the Rwandan policy, it was just a desperate attempt to gain votes. It would cost how much money to deport an insignificant amount of immigrants, numbers that wouldn't make a dent on net migration.

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1 minute ago, Pewit said:

Hahahaha I said sensible solutions mate.

Think we're beyond sensible, we're being treated like mugs ,gullable thick sheep ,is what the powers that be think of us ,still probably can't believe how far they pushed us ,before getting a reaction, sickening 

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2 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Think we're beyond sensible, we're being treated like mugs ,gullable thick sheep ,is what the powers that be think of us ,still probably can't believe how far they pushed us ,before getting a reaction, sickening 

Agree but I in case you forgot mate, the Tories have caused this problem and we had the chance to vote for a party that is strict on immigration, but we voted for the party that is most relaxed on immigration.

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