Astanley 11,562 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 It's a broad question ,and I don't think there is a definitive answer . To dwell in these isles would be a start ,for how many generations would get many different answers To buy into the Greco Romano ,judeo Christian ,western culture and ethics would be nice ,I'm not talking religion ,but we have broadly accepted these ideals for millennia ,with reasonable results . To have pride or at least respect for the history ,traditions ,achievements and advances these very small islands have had in the world . To acknowledge the mistakes made without self hating . To know all this and not be scared to say it out loud or be cowed by those who wish to change and twist history , The strengths of being British is also it's biggest weakness ,it's tolerance and humanity are being turned against us by those who wish to destroy us from within . 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,799 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 5 minutes ago, Pewit said: No, they didn't. The Celts & Romans preceded them. the Welsh are the true Britons 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 Out of likes lads but I'm dishing them out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 3 minutes ago, Astanley said: It's a broad question ,and I don't think there is a definitive answer . To dwell in these isles would be a start ,for how many generations would get many different answers To buy into the Greco Romano ,judeo Christian ,western culture and ethics would be nice ,I'm not talking religion ,but we have broadly accepted these ideals for millennia ,with reasonable results . To have pride or at least respect for the history ,traditions ,achievements and advances these very small islands have had in the world . To acknowledge the mistakes made without self hating . To know all this and not be scared to say it out loud or be cowed by those who wish to change and twist history , The strengths of being British is also it's biggest weakness ,it's tolerance and humanity are being turned against us by those who wish to destroy us from within . I kind of agree about Christianity, I'm not really religious at all but I can acknowledge the unity it brings. Britain is now more secular than it has ever been and for national identity this is a terrible thing IMO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 10 minutes ago, greg64 said: the Welsh are the true Britons Yes mate but we will always be superior. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,799 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 7 minutes ago, Pewit said: Yes mate but we will always be superior. you won't get a rise out of me as both my parents are English i was just born here so don't consider myself Welsh 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TRUEBRIT66 1,493 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 22 minutes ago, Astanley said: It's a broad question ,and I don't think there is a definitive answer . To dwell in these isles would be a start ,for how many generations would get many different answers To buy into the Greco Romano ,judeo Christian ,western culture and ethics would be nice ,I'm not talking religion ,but we have broadly accepted these ideals for millennia ,with reasonable results . To have pride or at least respect for the history ,traditions ,achievements and advances these very small islands have had in the world . To acknowledge the mistakes made without self hating . To know all this and not be scared to say it out loud or be cowed by those who wish to change and twist history , The strengths of being British is also it's biggest weakness ,it's tolerance and humanity are being turned against us by those who wish to destroy us from within . All of the above for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,615 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 17 minutes ago, Pewit said: I kind of agree about Christianity, I'm not really religious at all but I can acknowledge the unity it brings. Britain is now more secular than it has ever been and for national identity this is a terrible thing IMO. Had this conversation at work the other week diversity is the antithesis of identity the more diverse you are the less identity you have and portray Suppose it is based on what’s more important to people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, greg64 said: you won't get a rise out of me as both my parents are English i was just born here so don't consider myself Welsh Just having the crack mate, but seriously though, I can't believe the Welsh accepted that name, especially if they knew that it basically meant "foreigner/stranger" to the Anglo Saxons. Brits/Britons would have been more fitting. Edited August 2 by Pewit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,799 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Pewit said: Just having the crack mate, but seriously thought, I can't believe the Welsh accepted that name, especially if they knew that it basically meant "foreigner/stranger" to the Anglo Saxons. they don't they call it Cymru not Wales which comes from a Brythonic word combragos which means compatriot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) 1 minute ago, greg64 said: they don't they call it Cymru not Wales which comes from a Brythonic word combragos which means compatriot Yeah I know that mate, but realistically, I imagine the majority still call themselves Welsh and their country Wales? Edited August 2 by Pewit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,799 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Pewit said: Yeah I know that mate, but realistically, I imagine the majority still call themselves Welsh and their country Wales? yeah i recon so depends on how nationalist they are Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,038 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 You don’t have to be Christian to have Christian values. Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,719 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 The true native brits is the scots, irish, and welsh, the english are more diluted by the invasions so the english can be anything but defo not native like us 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,719 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Just saying like lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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