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3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Some tv presenter said today that Andy Murray was Britains greatest ever athlete and I instantly shouted at the telly ” Daley Thompson, you prick” ! 
When my blood pressure subsided to somewhere normal , I though of quite a few athletes who I thought deserved that accolade before Murray !

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 Jason Kenny , GBs most decorated Olympian , must admit i had to google it , ive heard of him but i never realised  how successful he was    

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To further muddy the waters ; anyone remember Zola Budd and more recently Sir Mo Farah ?

Both “British “ athletes, but really neither were or are British ! 
One is as white as me; the other as black as Newgates knocker, as Boycie would say, but they were both AFRICANS ! One South African, the other Somali.

So, Is Daley Thompson more British than Zola Budd ?

A quagmire, ain’t it ?

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Just now, shaaark said:

Well, he ain't f***ing ENGLISH, is he?!!!

Well yes he f***ing is isn't he, what you're saying is Boris Johnson ain't English. He's a legal British citizen!!

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7 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

To further muddy the waters ; anyone remember Zola Budd and more recently Sir Mo Farah ?

Both “British “ athletes, but really neither were or are British ! 
One is as white as me; the other as black as Newgates knocker, as Boycie would say, but they were both AFRICANS ! One South African, the other Somali.

So, Is Daley Thompson more British than Zola Budd ?

A quagmire, ain’t it ?

Cheers.

Budd acquired British citizenship via ancestry claims on her grandfather's side, I'd say Thompson has more right to claim he's a Brit.

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1 minute ago, Pewit said:

Budd acquired British citizenship via ancestry claims on her grandfather's side, I'd say Thompson has more right to claim he's a Brit.

It’s like footballers who are “English” and play in the under 21’s until they realise they won’t make the grade up to the senior team, then suddenly have a Scot’s granny and then they are “Scot’s” and play for Scotland ! LOL !

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1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

It’s like footballers who are “English” and play in the under 21’s until they realise they won’t make the grade up to the senior team, then suddenly have a Scot’s granny and then they are “Scot’s” and play for Scotland ! LOL !

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Yep, and Daley was born & bred in England, he's British.

 

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4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

It’s like footballers who are “English” and play in the under 21’s until they realise they won’t make the grade up to the senior team, then suddenly have a Scot’s granny and then they are “Scot’s” and play for Scotland ! LOL !

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Yep, I bet Shark was happy to claim Ryan Giggs back in the day, a true Welshman if ever there was one! Lol

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Just now, Pewit said:

Yep, and Daley was born & bred in England, he's British.

 

I was once on a flight and the passengers included Daley Thompson, Malcolm Macdonald, Brendan Foster and other athletes, they had been playing a charity football game at Gateshead Stadium, they were part of an England team.

It was only a short flight, Newcastle - London, but I had a chat with them and Daley came across as a very nice, down to Earth bloke.

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Just now, chartpolski said:

I was once on a flight and the passengers included Daley Thompson, Malcolm Macdonald, Brendan Foster and other athletes, they had been playing a charity football game at Gateshead Stadium, they were part of an England team.

It was only a short flight, Newcastle - London, but I had a chat with them and Daley came across as a very nice, down to Earth bloke.

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He competed a bit before my time but from I gather he does seem decent sort. We had some good athletes back in the 80's didn't we, and not all black for the easily triggered. Lol

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1 minute ago, Pewit said:

He competed a bit before my time but from I gather he does seem decent sort. We had some good athletes back in the 80's didn't we, and not all black for the easily triggered. Lol

Coe, Ovett, Cram, to name only three; three of the best middle distance runners in the world ! 
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1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said:

What about big linford running for GB with a cucumber down his shorts, the man could polevault over the hurdles, but id say he was british, what about lennox lewis? How would yous class him?

Lennox didn't know that one, he fought in the Olympics for Canada before turning pro has a Brit. Apparently there's a good documentary on Linford that's now on Netflix. You never hear of him after his drugs scandal, he was supposedly shafted or so it says on the documentary.

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2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Coe, Ovett, Cram, to name only three; three of the best middle distance runners in the world ! 
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Yep, along with Allan Wells, the sprinter and Peter Elliot from Rotherham, gold & silver medal winners at the Olympics.

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