Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 I know any chance of a sensible discussion on this matters is about as possible as rocking horse shit but here goes. In people's opinion, what makes us British? Is it ethnicity, culture, geography? What defines us as British, or if you want to get in to finer detail, English? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hot dog 133 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 White being a start. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, hot dog said: White being a start. Interesting start. So according to your logic, people like Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn, Linford Christie could never be classed as British? Even the most ardent of patriots have sang the national anthem whilst celebrating people like these individuals. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,719 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Native british- white british- anybody who lives here and lives by our laws and cultures and adapts to our way of life and contributes to our society and doesnt want to change it, they must also denounce islam and left wing extremism 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said: Native british- white british- anybody who lives here and lives by our laws and cultures and adapts to our way of life and contributes to our society and doesnt want to change it, they must also denounce islam and left wing extremism Ok, so in your view colour doesn't come in to it, you can be labelled as British providing you follow our culture, another interesting take. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 The British Isles have got a deep and rich history, but it's seldom been united & peaceful. Many of the Scots & Welsh would scoff at the suggestion of calling them British, it's not as clear cut as we think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hot dog 133 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, Pewit said: Interesting start. So according to your logic, people like Frank Bruno, Nigel Benn, Linford Christie could never be classed as British? Even the most ardent of patriots have sang the national anthem whilst celebrating people like these individuals. There Africans.they might have been born here but they can't be english.same as if I was born in Japan. I'll never be japanese. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, hot dog said: There Africans.they might have been born here but they can't be english.same as if I was born in Japan. I'll never be japanese. AJ is known as a British HW champion, not a Nigerian HW champion. But at some point, if you're English your ancestors did just that, they weren't born here, the Celts were here before us. How can we label ourselves as Brits then? Where is the dividing line? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hot dog 133 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 minute ago, Pewit said: AJ is known as a British HW champion, not a Nigerian HW champion. But at some point, if you're English your ancestors did just that, they weren't born here, the Celts were here before us. How can we label ourselves as Brits then? Where is the dividing line? If your white,Anglo saxon and protestant your indigenous to England and G B. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,109 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 b 18 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: Native british- white british- anybody who lives here and lives by our laws and cultures and adapts to our way of life and contributes to our society and doesnt want to change it, they must also denounce islam and left wing extremism id agree native british -born here with generations before the same british you would need to be born here with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,497 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 me me me, a typical english gent, born n bred here, and its a must that you have owned a whippet at some point, coloured folks born here or not, Not british in my book, itv news in the morning, ranvir singh, bbc Naga munchetty, no thank you kwasi karteng, fancy goint to bed we a name like that, im looking through my living room window at the moment, theres this black lady at the bus stop, how on earth she gets her heaving bum cheeks on the bus god knows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 Just now, hot dog said: If your white,Anglo saxon and protestant your indigenous to England and G B. Well that is factually incorrect, the Angles and the Saxons didn't originate in the British Isles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hot dog 133 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Just now, Pewit said: Well that is factually incorrect, the Angles and the Saxons didn't originate in the British Isles. But they got here first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 Just now, hot dog said: But they got here first. No, they didn't. The Celts & Romans preceded them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 Admittedly, the Romans didn't leave a strong genetic trace behind, but the Celts, that doesn't need explaining. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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