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Been bubbling under for years now all you need is a copper to go over the top and this will be the start of unrest like never seen before. Everyone saw this coming, when you have the older genera

My grandson is the same age as these children, and although we miss him tremendously, we are glad he attends an international school in Saudi Arabia. Whatever people may think of Saudi, these typ

Joking aside these shithole towns used to be proud industrial towns ,each with a unique identity. They had social cohesion and inner pride. Now they are all wastelands with the same  ingrained problem

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It's more about culture than race and more so about illegal migrants, of which there has been an unprecedented number. And still the government does nothing. Plenty of black and Asian Brits , equally patriotic and not wanting criminals and unknowns invading en masses.

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EPL starts next week. How best to punish the despised white working class males that you haven't locked up? Take their beloved football from them, postpone all games for "security concerns", if anyone else steps out of line.I would image plans are being made already.

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Another false dawn. All debate on immigration shut down again with anyone prepared to challenge the status quo vilified and labelled ‘far right’. Speaking openly about this issue or posting your opinion on SM risks your reputation, livelihood and even your liberty. Some of the protesters don’t help themselves attacking random ethnics in the street though. Wise the fcuk up.

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8 hours ago, WILF said:

British is a passport…..nothing more.

But a Briton is a white European for as far back in history as matters.

So, no, he can’t be a Briton anymore than I can be an African…..same as someone born with a penis can’t be a woman…..ever.

Its just a genetic fact of life.

For the purposes of destruction of a culture and an identity and by default a society…..no.

It’s like this, and this is only my observation, it’s never about “the 1”……1 can inter-grate, 1 can become part of a community and will live just as that community has always lived because that is the only and the defining culture and social order, 1 can be dealt with legally the same as anyone else in that community.

But we are not talking about 1, we are talking about 20 million and when you put 20 million together racial instinct kicks back in…..the cell is immortal, you will exhibit traits of people in your line who you never knew and never met and were long passed by the time you even entered the world…..but there they are, living and breathing still in your looks, your mannerisms, your traits…..all the things that you think are unique to you but are in fact nothing of the sort.

There is a reason that after 300,000 years plus Africa looks like Africa, there is a reason Pakistan looks like Pakistan and there’s a reason they all behave how they do in their own land…..it’s because that’s who they are, not good, not bad, just made that way.

The same gos for Europeans, there’s a reason Europe is as it is…..it came from us, it’s who we are.

The “crime” is daring to point out that we are different…..not good different or bad different but different and nowhere in nature tolerates too much “different” to the point it endangers the tribe or the pack or the nest or the flock or their territory…….it’s only us does that and it’s not working for anyone. 

There isn’t a race war, nor should there be, we just have to understand the basic logic of oil and water just won’t mix.

Yes…..there is a profound threat from Islam to all of Christian based Europe and ALL of Europe and everything we know is based on Christianity wether you are a believer or not, belief has nothing to do with the culture and society that belief built.

The ex pope Ratzinger wrote a book on that very subject warning of that threat.

The book is called “Without Roots” and just like the title if we loose touch with our roots we will wither and die.

I had a comment from a black university lecturer this morning in a social media discussion with a group of local politicians that I know from my old home town.

I know the lecturer as well, he is married to a white nurse and she delivered one of my children.

He is the same one I offered to meet at the time of the BLM riots and then he bottled the debate.

He said clearly “It’s your turn to be bullied by the police now”……so I would say the blacks are rather enjoying their day in the sun under the political traitors that govern us.

Another African trait, gorge themselves on what is given until it runs out rather than built something of their own to be proud of……Africa & Europe in microcosm again. 

In a sane world, no, they should not be targeted…..but these people themselves changed the rule book, no longer do we talk logical, calm, fair, sanity.

No longer do they dispense justice without favour.

Everything has been politicised, everything is rhetoric and that has led us to a dangerous place…..most people didn’t want that, they just wanted an honest conversation but they have been ignored.

If these people are targeted in a madness of their own making it’s very hard to find sympathy for that……I hope it never happens, but I won’t  be shocked if it does. 

I genuinely can’t fathom why they have done it, it’s an act of madness so great that it defies any explanation.

Because it’s been engineered that way……don’t ask me why but it relates to the question above.

I agree, the problem is multi faceted and multi layered but they all trace back to the same perpetrators…..western governments and their pay masters. 
We need to stop voting for these people. 

You talk of racial instinct when in reality it's mostly down to culture and wealth. Why is it that certain Muslim cities have some of the lowest crime rates on earth? If it was purely down to genetics we wouldn't see that. The trouble is, the vast majority of Muslim immigrants that arrived in the UK were mostly poor, hence why we have a negative outlook on them.

 

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2 minutes ago, Pewit said:

You talk of racial instinct when in reality it's mostly down to culture and wealth. Why is it that certain Muslim cities have some of the lowest crime rates on earth? If it was purely down to genetics we wouldn't see that. The trouble is, the vast majority of Muslim immigrants that arrived in the UK were mostly poor, hence why we have a negative outlook on them.

 

If we are all the same, why doesn’t every country look the same ?…..even those with hundreds of thousands of years head start ?

 

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10 hours ago, kanny said:

For a guess I'll say things will get more organised now , they have had the initial shock and awe sporadic stuff,  family men working on site all day ain't going out to cause havoc all night on a Wednesday , the weekend should be spicy though and  everytime there's a "incident" involving a visitor it will flair up again and they have become pretty regular.

I think the left for some part have actually trolled themselves tonight  with EDL derangement syndrome lol

The media are also guilty of inciting violence we know nothing will be done about that .

I'd agree with this.  The riots were the pressure valve, let off steam, kick off, let the feckers know the people aren't happy.  Watch and judge the reaction, evaluate what we're up against.  Regroup, reconsider and come back with another stategy.  One things for sure, it's certainly not gone or going away. That in itself tells you how niave and brain dead the leftwing labour luvvies are with the " we came out and showed them we won't stand for it so it's over now pish".

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12 hours ago, jukel123 said:

The police planned for ten days to a fortnight of riots. There is a science to these things.

I think society's frustrations build up and there's an eruption  of steam.

Last time,  in 2011 , curiously, the trigger for the eruption  was the shooting by the police of a mixed race known criminal. This time it's a black briton of Rawandan ancestry whose parents came to this country legally. Can a black Briton be truly a Brit? Many believe not. What stops them being truly British. Colour? Genes?

Is there a distinction between legal immigration,illegal immigration and asylum seekers? 

Should we have a colour bar of entrants to the country? Can the crimes of one black person be shared by all black people? By black do we also mean brown muslim? Are they all guilty by colour or association? If so then are all Caucasians  equally guilty of Hitler's crimes or Putin's or the crimes of the Yorkshire ripper?

Is there a subterranean or plain sight race war in the UK? If there is a war will it fizzle out as the police expect , or will it continue all the way to Civil War as Ellon Musk and others believe?

Is there an Ismalist threat to Christianity being the dominant UK religion? Can the mighty Church of England, the centuries old backbone of white protestant England be easily overthrown?

Has taking the knee backfired and created a resentment against wokism and ' right on ness'? I suspect most  people  black and white wish it would die a death. Has it become an irritant and an embarrassment ?

Should lawyers' political beliefs, left or right, be targeted when, theoretically , we have an open, pluralistic society where people are allowed to express viewpoints and where the judiciary is supposed to be independent?

Is mass migration into the UK a conspiracy led by the super elites who want a continual supply of cheap labour to continue to make them money? Is the war not a black v white war but the rich super elite versus the poor working class?The disenfranchised white poor versus the mysterious powers that be?

Many studies demonstrate how the white poor and faring the worst in modern society. Why ?

These are the issues we are dealing with and why we are having sometimes violent demonstrations. I'm asking questions not  expressing opinions. What's happening isn't about a single issue imo.

 

9 hours ago, WILF said:

British is a passport…..nothing more.

But a Briton is a white European for as far back in history as matters.

So, no, he can’t be a Briton anymore than I can be an African…..same as someone born with a penis can’t be a woman…..ever.

Its just a genetic fact of life.

For the purposes of destruction of a culture and an identity and by default a society…..no.

It’s like this, and this is only my observation, it’s never about “the 1”……1 can inter-grate, 1 can become part of a community and will live just as that community has always lived because that is the only and the defining culture and social order, 1 can be dealt with legally the same as anyone else in that community.

But we are not talking about 1, we are talking about 20 million and when you put 20 million together racial instinct kicks back in…..the cell is immortal, you will exhibit traits of people in your line who you never knew and never met and were long passed by the time you even entered the world…..but there they are, living and breathing still in your looks, your mannerisms, your traits…..all the things that you think are unique to you but are in fact nothing of the sort.

There is a reason that after 300,000 years plus Africa looks like Africa, there is a reason Pakistan looks like Pakistan and there’s a reason they all behave how they do in their own land…..it’s because that’s who they are, not good, not bad, just made that way.

The same gos for Europeans, there’s a reason Europe is as it is…..it came from us, it’s who we are.

The “crime” is daring to point out that we are different…..not good different or bad different but different and nowhere in nature tolerates too much “different” to the point it endangers the tribe or the pack or the nest or the flock or their territory…….it’s only us does that and it’s not working for anyone. 

There isn’t a race war, nor should there be, we just have to understand the basic logic of oil and water just won’t mix.

Yes…..there is a profound threat from Islam to all of Christian based Europe and ALL of Europe and everything we know is based on Christianity wether you are a believer or not, belief has nothing to do with the culture and society that belief built.

The ex pope Ratzinger wrote a book on that very subject warning of that threat.

The book is called “Without Roots” and just like the title if we loose touch with our roots we will wither and die.

I had a comment from a black university lecturer this morning in a social media discussion with a group of local politicians that I know from my old home town.

I know the lecturer as well, he is married to a white nurse and she delivered one of my children.

He is the same one I offered to meet at the time of the BLM riots and then he bottled the debate.

He said clearly “It’s your turn to be bullied by the police now”……so I would say the blacks are rather enjoying their day in the sun under the political traitors that govern us.

Another African trait, gorge themselves on what is given until it runs out rather than built something of their own to be proud of……Africa & Europe in microcosm again. 

In a sane world, no, they should not be targeted…..but these people themselves changed the rule book, no longer do we talk logical, calm, fair, sanity.

No longer do they dispense justice without favour.

Everything has been politicised, everything is rhetoric and that has led us to a dangerous place…..most people didn’t want that, they just wanted an honest conversation but they have been ignored.

If these people are targeted in a madness of their own making it’s very hard to find sympathy for that……I hope it never happens, but I won’t  be shocked if it does. 

I genuinely can’t fathom why they have done it, it’s an act of madness so great that it defies any explanation.

Because it’s been engineered that way……don’t ask me why but it relates to the question above.

I agree, the problem is multi faceted and multi layered but they all trace back to the same perpetrators…..western governments and their pay masters. 
We need to stop voting for these people. 

Intelligent, thought provoking and brilliantly worded posts lads...

For years the whole country has been talking about the extent of immigration and the problems that will eventually come from it, I've lost count of the amount of conversations I've had that always start.."I'm not racist but..."

It's become a pressure cooker and Jukels observation of the poorer working class white are now disadvantaged is without doubt a huge part of the unrest we are seeing, people have had enough of the lot of it, full stop... 

The terrible act of murdering innocent children is the straw that has broke the camels back, the potentially false allegation that he was Muslim matters not, this is the latest heinous crime that 25 years ago was almost unheard of, now knife crime is through the roof in our major cities and there is the constant underlying threat of terrorism, with soldiers bring killed on our streets, kids blown up, kids raped and passed around like sweets... every story adds another layer of hate/resentment... until the inevitable happens, and that is what we are seeing, of course there is racism now, more than ever imo, it is nationwide and don't forget the majority of the ethnic communities hate the white man as well, racism isn't a one way street... this isn't about skin colour, this is cultural, territorial, the basic workings of man... I will always say I'm not racist, I have no hatred at all.based on colour, but you'd have to be a blind man to realise this social experiment has gone extremely wrong...

 

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33 minutes ago, WILF said:

If we are all the same, why doesn’t every country look the same ?…..even those with hundreds of thousands of years head start ?

 

 I didn't say every country looks the same. I said if it was purely down to genetics or racial instinct as you call it, then why are some Muslim cities some of the most peaceful and prosperous on earth? It's because of wealth and culture, and as we see in these places, the culture has become more moderate. Humans can and do progress with the times, you could go back in time to more advanced civilizations than many sub-saharan countries of today, take the Romans, it was common practice to have sex with  under age boys. In the future people will look on the most moderate of us as woke, that's the price of being civilised.

 As to why countries are not all the same, impossible to say really, climate, disease, geography, adaptation, flora & fauna. A few theories why tbh.

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31 minutes ago, Pewit said:

 I didn't say every country looks the same. I said if it was purely down to genetics or racial instinct as you call it, then why are some Muslim cities some of the most peaceful and prosperous on earth? It's because of wealth and culture, and as we see in these places, the culture has become more moderate.

It’s because a few tribal leaders own all the wealth and ruthlessly control all the other poor fuckers, same as has always happened and same as happens to us to greater or lesser degrees……before oil they were still Bedouins and they will be that after oil.

Theres more to creating a society than having the money to get others to build things you couldn’t build yourself …….we did it from the ground up. 

31 minutes ago, Pewit said:

 As to why countries are not all the same, impossible to say really, climate, disease, geography, adaptation, flora & fauna. A few theories why tbh.

Great point, one that nicely ties in with my theory.

Africa is one of the richest country’s on earth, in terms of mineral wealth, rich soils, good climate….it’s has it all, in fact it has more than most…..if you want to have all the tools then it don’t get better than Africa.

And for 300,000 years they have managed to achieve f**k all with it, in fact worse than f**k all because they can’t even sustain themselves in this lottery win of a continent.

Go figure 

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19 minutes ago, WILF said:

It’s because a few tribal leaders own all the wealth and ruthlessly control all the other poor fuckers, same as has always happened and same as happens to us to greater or lesser degrees……before oil they were still Bedouins and they will be that after oil.

Theres more to creating a society than having the money to get others to build things you couldn’t build yourself …….we did it from the ground up. 

Great point, one that nicely ties in with my theory.

Africa is one of the richest country’s on earth, in terms of mineral wealth, rich soils, good climate….it’s has it all, in fact it has more than most…..if you want to have all the tools then it don’t get better than Africa.

And for 300,000 years they have managed to achieve f**k all with it, in fact worse than f**k all because they can’t even sustain themselves in this lottery win of a continent.

Go figure 

So, it's an example of culture/wealth  changing behaviours. Iraq was run by a dictator but Baghdad was hardly Dubai was it?

Africa is a continent, not a country mate, the people have never united, this makes a big difference. At some points in history certain African countries were more advanced and civilised than places of Europe, why was that? If it's purely down to genetics why did this ever happen in the first place?

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