Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Pewit said: Nothing scares me, I'll be long before we see the worst of it. Unless you get hooked up to the cybernetic mainframe lol Naw seriously these 90percent of scientists you say,what are they saying is the main cause of climate change? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 5 minutes ago, Francie, said: Unless you get hooked up to the cybernetic mainframe lol Naw seriously these 90percent of scientists you say,what are they saying is the main cause of climate change? The burning of fossil fuels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Pewit said: The burning of fossil fuels. So more of the plant nutrient co2 is warming the earth? Has it really been proven the co2 is warming the whole earth?how did they prove this beyond reasonable doubt? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 18 minutes ago, Francie, said: Unless you get hooked up to the cybernetic mainframe lol Naw seriously these 90percent of scientists you say,what are they saying is the main cause of climate change? I see you put a confused face,the joke was about you living hooked upto the matrix doh lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Francie, said: So more of the plant nutrient co2 is warming the earth? Has it really been proven the co2 is warming the whole earth?how did they prove this beyond reasonable doubt? The evidence is overwhelming, ice core samples, lab experiments, direct measurement of CO2 levels, computer models, historic studies, satellite data, etc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Just now, Pewit said: The evidence is overwhelming, ice core samples, lab experiments, direct measurement of CO2 levels, computer models, historic studies, satellite data, etc. None of the above proves that co2 is the main culprit only that it's getting at fraction higher over time,theres many more factors at play. An even if it was co2 sure it actually helps the plants an trees an forests getting bigger an more lush. How about they stop injecting aerosols into the atmosphere which havent even been proven to help,actually it could been warming the earth as it reflects solar back into the atmosphere so the particles there injecting could be trapping heat also,at there injecting these aerosols at least thirty years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, Francie, said: None of the above proves that co2 is the main culprit only that it's getting at fraction higher over time,theres many more factors at play. An even if it was co2 sure it actually helps the plants an trees an forests getting bigger an more lush. How about they stop injecting aerosols into the atmosphere which havent even been proven to help,actually it could been warming the earth as it reflects solar back into the atmosphere so the particles there injecting could be trapping heat also,at there injecting these aerosols at least thirty years. Have a read mate NOAA CSL: 2023 News & Events: For Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, All Strategies are Not Created Equal CSL.NOAA.GOV NOAA CSL 2023 News & Events: Archives of... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Francie, said: None of the above proves that co2 is the main culprit only that it's getting at fraction higher over time,theres many more factors at play. An even if it was co2 sure it actually helps the plants an trees an forests getting bigger an more lush. How about they stop injecting aerosols into the atmosphere which havent even been proven to help,actually it could been warming the earth as it reflects solar back into the atmosphere so the particles there injecting could be trapping heat also,at there injecting these aerosols at least thirty years. So, you don't believe that multiple lines of evidence from empirical data support the conclusion that CO2 is a major driver of global warning? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,279 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Now I don’t know, it’s way above my pay grade but could deforestation and concreting over green belt, etc mean that less vegetation means less co2 being consumed by plants therefore less oxygen being produced ? Of course the amount of co2 we pump into the atmosphere exacerbates the problem, but maybe just ONE of the causes of climate change, (remember when it was called “global warming” ? ), not the ONLY cause ? The equilibrium between co2 and oxygen has definitely been disturbed, probably by a variety of causes, but I doubt the mad rush to “net zero” in this country will make one iota of difference. Cheers. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Now I don’t know, it’s way above my pay grade but could deforestation and concreting over green belt, etc mean that less vegetation means less co2 being consumed by plants therefore less oxygen being produced ? Of course the amount of co2 we pump into the atmosphere exacerbates the problem, but maybe just ONE of the causes of climate change, (remember when it was called “global warming” ? ), not the ONLY cause ? The equilibrium between co2 and oxygen has definitely been disturbed, probably by a variety of causes, but I doubt the mad rush to “net zero” in this country will make one iota of difference. Cheers. Deforestation has an impact on climate change, that's another well known factor mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,825 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Now I don’t know, it’s way above my pay grade but could deforestation and concreting over green belt, etc mean that less vegetation means less co2 being consumed by plants therefore less oxygen being produced ? Of course the amount of co2 we pump into the atmosphere exacerbates the problem, but maybe just ONE of the causes of climate change, (remember when it was called “global warming” ? ), not the ONLY cause ? The equilibrium between co2 and oxygen has definitely been disturbed, probably by a variety of causes, but I doubt the mad rush to “net zero” in this country will make one iota of difference. Cheers. I'd say deforestation is a major, wood it made from atmospheric gases. We've spent hundreds of years clearing forests . Wales and Highlands are statement to the devastation. Farming throughout the world is clearing forests faster and faster . So yep I'd say that's major , but they seem to be moving back in the right direction somewhat in certain areas. I'd like to see Britain plant a few huge forests again... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 (edited) Here is a brutal truth……we should be letting Africa starve to death….period ! Sub Saharan Africa has the highest birth rate on the planet. In the 1960s, Lagos had a population of less than 1 million……now it’s around 20 million !!! But we have not done that, what we have done is keep a population who are incapable of sustaining themselves artificially alive……these are a people who live on a continent with everything and can make it produce or sustain nothing, they just break everything. So now we have taken to importing these people, who absolutely subtract from everything we as Europeans ever created, and destroying our place for them……. We deforest massive swathes of the globe to feed animals to provide cheap protein and destroy soils to provide cheap crops…..we are destroying the productive and the beneficial to protect the unproductive and the un-beneficial. If we believe that’s it’s just Gladys driving her Vauxhall corsa that's the problem then we need our bumps felt, the JSO people need their bumps felt if they think just switching off the tap in the west solves anything to any logical mind, it quiet clearly does not. Letting Africa reach a natural equilibrium that allows it to sustain itself would have a massive impact on man’s global impact and the impacts on our native European countryside, a countryside that is literally our poison filter. Edited July 27 by WILF 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,151 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Pewit said: So, you don't believe that multiple lines of evidence from empirical data support the conclusion that CO2 is a major driver of global warning? It's not that I dont beleive,I just dont trust them them,there telling us since the 50s about this,maybe not co2 but global warming an feck all has happened yet,no rising sea levels etc Could you put up some good links that show the co2 is causing global warming,I'm interested Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,075 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, WILF said: Here is a brutal truth……we should be letting Africa starve to death….period ! Sub Saharan Africa has the highest birth rate on the planet. In the 1960s, Lagos had a population of less than 1 million……now it’s around 20 million !!! But we have not done that, what we have done is keep a population who are incapable of sustaining themselves artificially alive……these are a people who live on a continent with everything and can make it produce or sustain nothing, they just break everything. So now we have taken to importing these people, who absolutely subtract from everything we as Europeans ever created, and destroying our place for them……. We deforest massive swathes of the globe to feed animals to provide cheap protein and destroy soils to provide cheap crops…..we are destroying the productive and the beneficial to protect the unproductive and the un-beneficial. If we believe that’s it’s just Gladys driving her Vauxhall corsa that's the problem then we need our bumps felt, the JSO people need their bumps felt if they think just switching off the tap in the west solves anything to any logical mind, it quiet clearly does not. Letting Africa reach a natural equilibrium that allows it to sustain itself would have a massive impact on man’s global impact and the impacts on our native European countryside, a countryside that is literally our poison filter. You`ve seen nothing yet, wait til they start pushing the malaria vaccine Bill Gates has had developed, THAT is when the shit will really hit the fan, population growth is the problem globally and all this crap scientists are peddling is just a distraction. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, neil82 said: You`ve seen nothing yet, wait til they start pushing the malaria vaccine Bill Gates has had developed, THAT is when the shit will really hit the fan, population growth is the problem globally and all this crap scientists are peddling is just a distraction. Populations growth in the 3rd world to be exact, it’s not Europeans because we are going backwards…..well below replacement levels in fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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