WILF 45,994 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 (edited) 48 minutes ago, chartpolski said: You have completely misunderstood. I don’t want to be like a dog with a bone, but I’m not letting you away with this ! You said “To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or they don’t”. It’s YOU, certainly not me, that not only APPEARS to approve it but has actually said it. Your using the old military tactic of “ deny, deflect and blame the accuser” , you’re trying to say I said what YOU actually said ! Its getting to repetitive now, I guess I’m out . Cheers. My fault, I wasn’t clear and the writing skills leave a lot to be desired. My rather badly worded phrase means that if we are not locking up people like the Palestine mob or the Black Lives Matter mob then how can we in all Logic lock up these people ?…….you either have to lock them all up or none of them, I’d prefer none of them because the cost to freedom is too expensive. We have conspiracy to murder law already, you can’t lump this in with that……because it’s just not the same in any reality. Edited July 24 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,405 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, WILF said: My fault, I wasn’t clear and the writing skills leave a lot to be desired. My rather badly worded phrase means that if we are not locking up people like the Palestine mob or the Black Lives Matter mob then how can we in all Logic lock up these people ?…….you either have to lock them all up or none of them, I’d prefer none of them because the cost is to freedom is too expensive. We have conspiracy to murder law already, you can’t lump this in with that……because it’s just not the same in any reality. Thank you, I’d far rather carry on an interesting discussion, debate where the adversaries can see and respect, without necessarily agreeing with, the opinions of others . It’s very easy to take the statement you made and I have quoted to “reductio ad absurdum”. Your statement, taken in the context of groups with similar aims and actions , but different philosophies , should be subject to the same laws of course makes sense, but in the far wider context of equating someone planning to protest his local council to someone planning an atrocity makes no sense at all. We appear to be on the same page, at last ! LOL ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 45,994 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: Thank you, I’d far rather carry on an interesting discussion, debate where the adversaries can see and respect, without necessarily agreeing with, the opinions of others . It’s very easy to take the statement you made and I have quoted to “reductio ad absurdum”. Your statement, taken in the context of groups with similar aims and actions , but different philosophies , should be subject to the same laws of course makes sense, but in the far wider context of equating someone planning to protest his local council to someone planning an atrocity makes no sense at all. We appear to be on the same page, at last ! LOL ! Cheers. Ditto mate I believe having looked briefly at the legislation that planning an atrocity and planning a protest are now worthy of a long prison sentence, except for the latter, which only requires a random government official to decide it’s illegal on the day at any given time and can be applied (or not applied) to whoever that official sees fit……..and that is what many lads are approving of in approving of these people being jailed. That’s bad law anyway you stack it up imho mate. Now, my suspicion is having watched the trajectory of my country for these last 40 odd years, that it will only be applied to silence uncomfortable voices and that has indeed been proven (imho) with other protests that were allowed to go ahead unmolested. That’s bad news for a British bloke who is in a very real fight for his culture and his country and his way of life. Again, jmho 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,221 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 Prisons are gonna be full to the brim when this lot get 5 yrs each for protesting Hundreds gather outside police station as anger rises over video of officer kicking man in head at Manchester Airport - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK ‘We’re not going to put up with this anymore’ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 1,791 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 14 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: Prisons are gonna be full to the brim when this lot get 5 yrs each for protesting Hundreds gather outside police station as anger rises over video of officer kicking man in head at Manchester Airport - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK ‘We’re not going to put up with this anymore’ Nice to see the white English all stood outside cop shop in rochdale 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 45,994 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, Bakerboy said: Prisons are gonna be full to the brim when this lot get 5 yrs each for protesting Hundreds gather outside police station as anger rises over video of officer kicking man in head at Manchester Airport - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK ‘We’re not going to put up with this anymore’ 3 hours ago, Councilestatekid said: Nice to see the white English all stood outside cop shop in rochdale And there you have it boys……. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,093 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 But nobody has been jailed for protesting I do get your point that white British probably will be and their is a two tier justice system... The oil wankers got jailed after 8 serious warnings for blocking roads and attacking priceless artifacts 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 45,994 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: But nobody has been jailed for protesting I do get your point that white British probably will be and their is a two tier justice system... The oil wankers got jailed after 8 serious warnings for blocking roads and attacking priceless artifacts We can’t talk about there being a two tier police system and then applaud the use of a two tier police system….it’s ludicrous mate. Which by the way is completely unrelated to the massive infringement of your freedoms this legislation has enshrined in law. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 25,693 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 I looked at that report yesterday that young girl protester is going to get eaten alive in nick....crazy sentence she got at 4 years... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,405 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 38 minutes ago, TOMO said: I looked at that report yesterday that young girl protester is going to get eaten alive in nick....crazy sentence she got at 4 years... oh+dear+how+sad+never+mind - Google Search WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK Cheers. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,588 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 8 hours ago, WILF said: And there you have it boys……. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 25,693 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 41 minutes ago, chartpolski said: oh+dear+how+sad+never+mind - Google Search WWW.GOOGLE.CO.UK Cheers. Mate as much as I'm no fan of these just stop oil guys .....there's no way on earth they deserved what they got Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,093 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 4 minutes ago, TOMO said: Mate as much as I'm no fan of these just stop oil guys .....there's no way on earth they deserved what they got They did after so many warnings. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,405 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 6 minutes ago, TOMO said: Mate as much as I'm no fan of these just stop oil guys .....there's no way on earth they deserved what they got Do you think you’d get ELEVEN warnings off a court for coursing before you got jailed ? I see those two stupid bints that threw soup over the Van Gogh painting have been found guilty…. I bet their arses are twitching now ! You have to do your own time, not like having a millionaire or a “go fund me” paying your fine ! It was obviously meant as a deterrent to others . Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 22,405 Posted July 25 Report Share Posted July 25 (edited) And with the new sentencing guidelines they will be out in 18 months. Cheers. Edited July 25 by chartpolski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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