joe ox 2,574 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, WILF said: The courts work for the law, the law is made by the government. I don’t think the government should lock you up if you want to stand in the road with a placard that says “Please don’t build 300 houses all over this historic woodland” no matter how many time they warn you not to do it. You seem to be getting more emotional with your views as your getting on, decent topic this with different views and no stupid talk. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 4 minutes ago, chartpolski said: Wilf , I’ve NEVER said they deserved the same punishment! You said, and I quote; “To me anyone planning anything gets locked up or no one “ ! You couldn’t have said it clearer ! Cheers. We have laws for conspiracy to murder, why do we need more laws for conspiracy to lay in a road ? In what reality are those things even similar or regarded in the same light ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, joe ox said: You seem to be getting more emotional with your views as your getting on, decent topic this with different views and no stupid talk. I’m emotional only in as much as I just find buying into something I think is clearly nonsense (but very sinister nonsense with possibly far reaching consequences for indigenous citizens of a country that is being thrown down the toilet) frustrating mate. But I’m not angry or hostile about other views, I have found the subject of my own peoples willingness to be abused fascinating for a long time as well as a bit soul destroying…..but it’s an interesting subject to talk about. Im resigned to it in reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,215 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Just now, WILF said: We have laws for conspiracy to murder, why do we need more laws for conspiracy to lay in a road ? In what reality are those things even similar or regarded in the same light ? They are not and the punishments for each differ greatly, but please don’t move the goal posts, you said ; and again, I’ll quote ;” To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or no one”. Admit that, it’s there to be read ! I don’t actually think you believe that. There are many laws we don’t agree with but without laws we would have anarchy. Cheets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Just now, chartpolski said: They are not and the punishments for each differ greatly, but please don’t move the goal posts, you said ; and again, I’ll quote ;” To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or no one”. Admit that, it’s there to be read ! I don’t actually think you believe that. There are many laws we don’t agree with but without laws we would have anarchy. Cheets. Yes, because there seems to be a notion that our government will apply these laws even handedly which they clearly won’t !……what does that mean for you, the common or garden English bloke ? It means you can go f**k yourself while aliens get away with absolute murder…..if they ain’t locking up everyone at the pro Palestine protest then they can’t lock up 5 white nerds for planning to lay in a road can they, that’s logic surely ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, WILF said: We have laws for conspiracy to murder, why do we need more laws for conspiracy to lay in a road ? In what reality are those things even similar or regarded in the same light ? So if somebody squashed them on the road, whos fault is it and who goes to jail? Or if kids see this and think hey we are gona do that then end up knocked down and killed, whos fault is that? They should protest but not at the expense of joe public, or snooker halls, or football matches etc 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 4 minutes ago, WILF said: Yes, because there seems to be a notion that our government will apply these laws even handedly which they clearly won’t !……what does that mean for you, the common or garden English bloke ? It means you can go f**k yourself while aliens get away with absolute murder…..if they ain’t locking up everyone at the pro Palestine protest then they can’t lock up 5 white nerds for planning to lay in a road can they, that’s logic surely ! They should be exporting those protestors to palestine to fight for the cause they so well believe in, with a permanent ban on getting back into GB, problem is labour have been installed to finish what the nazis tried in ww2, the ruination of GB 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said: So if somebody squashed them on the road, whos fault is it and who goes to jail? Or if kids see this and think hey we are gona do that then end up knocked down and killed, whos fault is that? They should protest but not at the expense of joe public, or snooker halls, or football matches etc Made up scenarios mate, except the football match of course…..they can be used to peddle any bit of rhetoric the powers that be see fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joe ox 2,574 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 6 minutes ago, WILF said: I’m emotional only in as much as I just find buying into something I think is clearly nonsense (but very sinister nonsense with possibly far reaching consequences for indigenous citizens of a country that is being thrown down the toilet) frustrating mate. But I’m not angry or hostile about other views, I have found the subject of my own peoples willingness to be abused fascinating for a long time as well as a bit soul destroying…..but it’s an interesting subject to talk about. Im resigned to it in reality. Yes very frustrating, human stupidity still has the ability to amaze me nearly every day !!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 2 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: They should be exporting those protestors to palestine to fight for the cause they so well believe in, with a permanent ban on getting back into GB, problem is labour have been installed to finish what the nazis tried in ww2, the ruination of GB Yeah, but they ain’t ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,215 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, WILF said: Yes, because there seems to be a notion that our government will apply these laws even handedly which they clearly won’t !……what does that mean for you, the common or garden English bloke ? It means you can go f**k yourself while aliens get away with absolute murder…..if they ain’t locking up everyone at the pro Palestine protest then they can’t lock up 5 white nerds for planning to lay in a road can they, that’s logic surely ! Not my logic ! LOL ! They shouldn’t lock up someone planning to protest outside the council office about getting their bins emptied but they should lock up someone planning to blow up a load of kids. By your logic of “To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or no one” they would either both get locked up or both not get locked up ! C’mon Wilf , give me this one mate, I’ll even accept the politicians answer that you “misspoke “, you don’t even have to admit you are wrong on this ! LOL ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,727 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Just now, WILF said: Made up scenarios mate, except the football match of course…..they can be used to peddle any bit of rhetoric the powers that be see fit. Its not made up senarios though, all the kids these days are on social media and are influenced by the shite they see on the net or tv,its got that bad we dont even watch tv any more. Pure and utter tripe put on to dull down and divide and conquer joe public Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,639 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 Just now, chartpolski said: Not my logic ! LOL ! They shouldn’t lock up someone planning to protest outside the council office about getting their bins emptied but they should lock up someone planning to blow up a load of kids. By your logic of “To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or no one” they would either both get locked up or both not get locked up ! C’mon Wilf , give me this one mate, I’ll even accept the politicians answer that you “misspoke “, you don’t even have to admit you are wrong on this ! LOL ! Cheers. No mate, they were completely different things but the point is, they are not now and you approve from what I can see if it ? unless I have complete misunderstood ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,215 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 3 minutes ago, WILF said: Made up scenarios mate, except the football match of course…..they can be used to peddle any bit of rhetoric the powers that be see fit. And the snooker, don’t forget the snooker ! LOL ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,215 Posted July 24 Report Share Posted July 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WILF said: No mate, they were completely different things but the point is, they are not now and you approve from what I can see if it ? unless I have complete misunderstood ? You have completely misunderstood. I don’t want to be like a dog with a bone, but I’m not letting you away with this ! You said “To me ANYONE planning ANYTHING gets locked up or they don’t”. It’s YOU, certainly not me, that not only APPEARS to approve it but has actually said it. Your using the old military tactic of “ deny, deflect and blame the accuser” , you’re trying to say I said what YOU actually said ! Its getting to repetitive now, I guess I’m out . Cheers. Edited July 24 by chartpolski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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