Jude85 6 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Hi all I have a genuine request for help here. Just so folks are aware and I’m not just popping up out the wood work here I’ve been about and bred dogs not my own lines but I just stopped breeding fells which I did for years as I have a brightmore fell mine actually carry’s a white gene on her belly can’t argue it.anyone that knows there dogs anyway. Then I moved back in to first crosses ,so since a while I’ve been seeing mr plattes English deerhounds all over the place but black have these just came about in the last 10 year and because the were the old English sheep dog decided to call first crosses or what ever English deerhound? I’m sure he is a fantastic guy not doubting that at all in fact I watched a documentary on YouTube he was in it just a short film thing but guy new his stuff but it’s just the English bit then deerhound so I’m genuinely asking what is that and the name where did it come from or did he just put that stuck with it? Reason I ask I think folks must think these are full deerhound because twice I have folk selling them and not saying the English part so anyone that doesn’t know is buying a lurcher?Im currently looking for a kc female deerhound and a breeder said it seems to be a bit of a problem,someone yesterday tried to sell me one at £1500 haha but they had about 8 fb pages in deerhounds and another was puppy near me beware folks! as I tried to report them and turned out it was there other page lol f**k it all for the dogs. but was nearly jet black old grey snout , so I’m just wondering what’s going on there? Hope know one minds and doesn’t become offended I don’t mean that.sorry in advance 1 Quote Link to post
Bakerboy 4,516 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 12 minutes ago, Jude85 said: Hi all I have a genuine request for help here. Just so folks are aware and I’m not just popping up out the wood work here I’ve been about and bred dogs not my own lines but I just stopped breeding fells which I did for years as I have a brightmore fell mine actually carry’s a white gene on her belly can’t argue it.anyone that knows there dogs anyway. Then I moved back in to first crosses ,so since a while I’ve been seeing mr plattes English deerhounds all over the place but black have these just came about in the last 10 year and because the were the old English sheep dog decided to call first crosses or what ever English deerhound? I’m sure he is a fantastic guy not doubting that at all in fact I watched a documentary on YouTube he was in it just a short film thing but guy new his stuff but it’s just the English bit then deerhound so I’m genuinely asking what is that and the name where did it come from or did he just put that stuck with it? Reason I ask I think folks must think these are full deerhound because twice I have folk selling them and not saying the English part so anyone that doesn’t know is buying a lurcher?Im currently looking for a kc female deerhound and a breeder said it seems to be a bit of a problem,someone yesterday tried to sell me one at £1500 haha but they had about 8 fb pages in deerhounds and another was puppy near me beware folks! as I tried to report them and turned out it was there other page lol f**k it all for the dogs. but was nearly jet black old grey snout , so I’m just wondering what’s going on there? Hope know one minds and doesn’t become offended I don’t mean that.sorry in advance The English Deerhounds are just deerhound xs 3 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,432 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Dave Platts crosses Deerhounds with modern racing Greyhounds. What makes you think he knows his stuff btw? Dont get sucked into promotional videoes. They have a product and they want you to buy it. Its a sad fact that the genuine Sottish Deerhound is extinct same as the English mastiff. When Deerhounds did exist there was also a rough greyhound about at that time sometimes confused with the Deerhound. That is more or less what Platts are breeding despite what the label says. What you see now in the kc is replicas as far as Deerhounds go. 3 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 22,942 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 “Scottish Deerhound “ is a Scottish Deerhound. ”English Deerhound “ is a cross between a Scottish Deerhound and a Greyhound. Simple as that, really…… Cheers. 4 1 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,693 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 You breed a whippet to a whippet, you end up with whippet pups. 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,819 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 The English deerhound is what all greyhounds would of looked like a long time ago platts generation bred English deerhounds are gamer and more capable than modern deerhounds and probably better working animals than the Scottish deerhounds of old So I'm told 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,098 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 57 minutes ago, Black neck said: The English deerhound is what all greyhounds would of looked like a long time ago platts generation bred English deerhounds are gamer and more capable than modern deerhounds and probably better working animals than the Scottish deerhounds of old So I'm told seen a few bits that platt recorded seems a character he work them black 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,819 Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: seen a few bits that platt recorded seems a character he work them black Oh yes apparently there bang at it mate Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,076 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 We call them staghounds over here. Good cross but hardly a new one. 1 Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,957 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 11 hours ago, Black neck said: Oh yes apparently there bang at it Who says? Platt? What's hes selling? Pups! Any lurcher with half greyhound in it will chase and some will be crackers. But he's not breeding proven dog to proven dog. Be great to import some straws/staghounds from Oz and America and introduce some genuine working blood into the deer/ greys we have over here. Nice project for some of you younger fellas. 4 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,819 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Who says? Platt? What's hes selling? Pups! Any lurcher with half greyhound in it will chase and some will be crackers. But he's not breeding proven dog to proven dog. Be great to import some straws/staghounds from Oz and America and introduce some genuine working blood into the deer/ greys we have over here. Nice project for some of you younger fellas. Yes American stag hounds are good working animals but I'm told the English deerhound is that bit sharper on quarry Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 I can recreate the English deerhound in a mear 18month or just over 1 2 Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,957 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 38 minutes ago, Black neck said: Yes American stag hounds are good working animals but I'm told the English deerhound is that bit sharper on quarry Your source is dodgy. Quote Link to post
jukel123 7,957 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 38 minutes ago, Penda said: I can recreate the English deerhound in a mear 18month or just over I can do it in 9 weeks. Beat that! Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,819 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: Your source is dodgy. I've got kids 2 Quote Link to post
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