French elections

[WILF 47,217]

2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

As Churchill said; “ Democracy is the least bad form of government “.

So even he agreed that democracy isn’t perfect, but it’s better than the other alternatives.

I believe in the theory of “benevolent dictatorship” , but sadly a benevolent dictator would soon drop the “benevolent “.

In the words of Lord Acton ; “ Power corrupts….absolute power corrupts absolutely “ !

So, on reflection, although democracy isn’t perfect, it’s worked pretty well since the ancient Greeks, and has seen off communism and fascism and dictatorship so I’ll stick with it for now !

Cheers.

The inherent weakness in democracy I think must be us, the voter…..after all, we are the ones electing these total pricks.

Ultimately it’s on us.

So maybe we either need better leaders who are less democratic or better voters ?…….I’m going for option 2 !

In this day and age you can inform and educate yourself with your phone, in seconds…..there really is no excuse to be surprised or shocked or outraged.

There is no excuse to keep making the same mistakes with the same people.

Maybe if we don’t start doing better with the things we can control we will end up with something we can’t control ?……

Edited July 2, 2024 by WILF

[tatsblisters 9,944]

16 hours ago, steve66 said:

Just hope that when the French right come down on immigration, they don’t all try and come here 

Maybe that's one of the reasons they are trying to get here in their thousands now mate that and all the generous benefits the UK give them for illegally entering the country. 

[TRUEBRIT66 1,585]

12 hours ago, eastcoast said:

Have you've seen what you can buy in France? 3 bed modern conversion farm house with an orchard and carp pool for under £200,000? I hope the political change over there does not curtail my options. Left, right, middle, upside down, up until now they seemed to have preserved a nice country. 

Thing is we are a tiny island, England is 50.30m2 and a population of 57million. France is 248.57m2 and has a population of 68 million.  Easier to preserve a nice country when you have the room, we are packed in like sardines creating ghettos and shit holes!

 

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39 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Thing is we are a tiny island, England is 50.30m2 and a population of 57million. France is 248.57m2 and has a population of 68 million.  Easier to preserve a nice country when you have the room, we are packed in like sardines creating ghettos and shit holes!

 

That's true mate. I look at it like having the kennel space for let's say 4 dogs and if you cram 40 dogs into the same space you are going to get shed loads of problems like our country is witnessing now well most of us are but obviously not them who have let it get to the state it's in as they will live miles away from the madness of mass uncontrolled immigration. 

[Bakerboy 4,736]

9 hours ago, WILF said:

The inherent weakness in democracy I think must be us, the voter…..after all, we are the ones electing these total pricks.

Ultimately it’s on us.

So maybe we either need better leaders who are less democratic or better voters ?…….I’m going for option 2 !

In this day and age you can inform and educate yourself with your phone, in seconds…..there really is no excuse to be surprised or shocked or outraged.

There is no excuse to keep making the same mistakes with the same people.

Maybe if we don’t start doing better with the things we can control we will end up with something we can’t control ?……

Been saying it for years mate, blanket democracy (everyone over 18 getting a vote ) just doesnt work anymore, I dont know what could replace it but it needs doing

[WILF 47,217]

58 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

Been saying it for years mate, blanket democracy (everyone over 18 getting a vote ) just doesnt work anymore, I dont know what could replace it but it needs doing

We have to get PR mate, you still end up with a load of pricks but at least it’s easier to change things. 

Edited July 3, 2024 by WILF

[WILF 47,217]

2 hours ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Thing is we are a tiny island, England is 50.30m2 and a population of 57million. France is 248.57m2 and has a population of 68 million.  Easier to preserve a nice country when you have the room, we are packed in like sardines creating ghettos and shit holes!

 

Just a small point of order mate, but Britain is more like 70 million people and rising ! 
 

Something else interesting is that Germanys population is only a couple of million more than it was pre WW2 but ours is about 20 million more !

Edited July 3, 2024 by WILF

[Wolfdog91 7,182]

2 hours ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Thing is we are a tiny island, England is 50.30m2 and a population of 57million. France is 248.57m2 and has a population of 68 million.  Easier to preserve a nice country when you have the room, we are packed in like sardines creating ghettos and shit holes!

 

Time to take a note from Germany Lebensraum time !

[WILF 47,217]

1 minute ago, Wolfdog91 said:

Time to take a note from Germany Lebensraum time !

Europe is already on it mate…..

[chartpolski 23,974]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Just a small point of order mate, but Britain is more like 70 million people and rising ! 
 

Something else interesting is that Germanys population is only a couple of million more than it was pre WW2 but ours is about 20 million more !

To be fair, Truebrit66 did say ENGLAND, and he’s correct.

Cheers.

[WILF 47,217]

17 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

To be fair, Truebrit66 did say ENGLAND, and he’s correct.

Cheers.

My mistake mate, read one thing but my mind registered something else 

[chartpolski 23,974]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

My mistake mate, read one thing but my mind registered something else 

I think the huge rise in GB population is unsustainable.

It doesn’t matter what anyones views are on immigration; if we don’t have the infrastructure; houses, schools, hospitals, GP’s, etc, to absorb these people, we simply cant keep expanding the population at the rate we currently are without risking a breakdown of society.

Cheers.

[mC HULL 12,899]

19 hours ago, chartpolski said:

Really? The Tory’s are going out of business because the voters are going to bring in a Labour government, my guess it will be worse than even the Tory’s, but if everyone voted Reform it would terrify the Establishment and they might just start thinking !

Cheers.

and what will change ? most of reform the big donators are muslim 

like putin said of the usa the new president gets in has loads of ideas and then the men in suits arrive and tell them how it really is 

you enjoyed living working under a dictatorship didn’t you ? 

[kanny 20,634]

33 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

and what will change ? most of reform the big donators are muslim 

like putin said of the usa the new president gets in has loads of ideas and then the men in suits arrive and tell them how it really is 

you enjoyed living working under a dictatorship didn’t you ? 

I think the biggest donator is by his own words a cultural Muslim not a practicing Muslim,  we mustn't let perfect be the enemy of good  

[mC HULL 12,899]

1 hour ago, kanny said:

I think the biggest donator is by his own words a cultural Muslim not a practicing Muslim,  we mustn't let perfect be the enemy of good  

he was more passionate about the uk then  starmer  or sunak i’ll give him that