weight training

[Pewit 970]

5 minutes ago, Billy b said:

Depends on your goals really. Push pull legs is a good one, however I find with that routine it can also leave a lot of lifts suffering, I ran PPL for a while but have recently gone back to a split and am loving it, the reason I stopped with PPL was because on push day for example it's a lot on the shoulders, for example bench and overhead press in the same session, one is going to suffer depending on which one you do first, even if you use cables or dumbbells

I think the biggest benefit of PPL was time, you can get done in 3days gym wise and then focus on cardio etc, but I felt after a while alot of lifts were suffering due to pre exhaustion

If i were I'd either do a split or compound lifts without it being PPL if you get me, and cardio in between if you want to do some, get on the rower and things on days when you don't do weights, but personally I never do both in the same session, either cardio in the morning or weights in the evening, or cardio on a separate day to weights entirely, some lifts like clean and press get you fit aswell as strong, but in general cardio and weights for me should be done seperate unless you want to go down the hyrox or crossfit route 

I was doing a 5x5 program for a few months but tbh it was quite boring, I know sometimes less is best but you're only doing 3 or so exercises per session. What about an upper/lower routine? But as you say, once the weights start getting heavier you can be taxed after bench or shoulder presses, one will effect the other.

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1 hour ago, king said:

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[TOMO 25,995]

2 hours ago, Pewit said:

First day back at the gym in months, didn't go in with a plan and just did a few push exercises. Any recommend routines?

As above I like push pull legs...pretty much what I do all the time....years ago I used to do ....Monday chest biceps..Tuesday quads hams...Wednesday off...Thursday back triceps..Friday shoulders calvs 

[Pewit 970]

Just now, TOMO said:

As above I like push pull legs...pretty much what I do all the time....years ago I used to do ....Monday chest biceps..Tuesday quads hams...Wednesday off...Thursday back triceps..Friday shoulders calvs 

There's a million routines on the web, do you have any recommendations? 

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5 hours ago, king said:

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Hope you have a speedy recovery mate and take it steady for a while. 

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But to be honest do one you will enjoy and keep up

[Pewit 970]

Just now, TOMO said:

Those two I've just posted...

But to be honest do one you will enjoy and keep up

What puzzles me is how much volume to do? I'm a relative novice, most I've consistently hit the weights is around 3 months, other than that my training has been sporadic. As a relative novice is it optimal to be doing lots of exercises per body part or will I get more gains doing one or two exercises per body part? 

[Billy b 759]

43 minutes ago, Pewit said:

I was doing a 5x5 program for a few months but tbh it was quite boring, I know sometimes less is best but you're only doing 3 or so exercises per session. What about an upper/lower routine? But as you say, once the weights start getting heavier you can be taxed after bench or shoulder presses, one will effect the other.

Try and see how you get on, but Yeah I'd say with an upper lower you would likely suffer the same as PPL with pre exhaustion. 

I'd just play about with it and find out what routine works best for you with what you want to achieve, look at areas where you're strongest and weakest, and work on weak areas more and go from there

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47 minutes ago, Pewit said:

I was doing a 5x5 program for a few months but tbh it was quite boring, I know sometimes less is best but you're only doing 3 or so exercises per session. What about an upper/lower routine? But as you say, once the weights start getting heavier you can be taxed after bench or shoulder presses, one will effect the other.

Tried 531?

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[TOMO 25,995]

10 minutes ago, Pewit said:

What puzzles me is how much volume to do? I'm a relative novice, most I've consistently hit the weights is around 3 months, other than that my training has been sporadic. As a relative novice is it optimal to be doing lots of exercises per body part or will I get more gains doing one or two exercises per body part? 

You could do all sorts if your just starting...hole body 3 time's  a week if you wanted...2 exercises for large muscles a compound like squat and leg extension...or bench press and fly...overhead press and lat raise with dumbells..bent row and pull ups chins..then use the EZ bar and do curls and lieing triceps extension...3..4 sets for each exercise 10..15 reps

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,617]

43 minutes ago, Pewit said:

There's a million routines on the web, do you have any recommendations? 

Push day 

pull day 

recorded the scores with weights 

complete 5 x 5 , Jim wendlers

retest on push pull  , should be improved 

then two weeks of unloading at eighty percent going down to 65% 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Push day 

pull day 

recorded the scores with weights 

complete 5 x 5 , Joe weidlers 

retest on push pull  , should be improved 

then two weeks of unloading at eighty percent going down to 65% 

 

 

Riveting……..

[Pewit 970]

2 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Push day 

pull day 

recorded the scores with weights 

complete 5 x 5 , Joe weidlers 

retest on push pull  , should be improved 

then two weeks of unloading at eighty percent going down to 65% 

 

 

I was doing a 5x5 mate, I didn't mind it but it's not really a program you want to be doing if you're on a deficit, it states you should do it on a bulk. 

I got weighed today after the gym and I'd lost a bit, down to 105kg.

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,617]

5 minutes ago, Pewit said:

I was doing a 5x5 mate, I didn't mind it but it's not really a program you want to be doing if you're on a deficit, it states you should do it on a bulk. 

I got weighed today after the gym and I'd lost a bit, down to 105kg.

If you want to cut , I’d push your cardio more . I know that sounds obvious but it doesn’t have to be running at half five wrapped in bin bags 

adding these at the start or beginning of any session will get the lungs opened 

that rowing machine split was deadly mind , especially doing it as a duo , the recommended rpm goes out the window and you end up racing 

[Pewit 970]

1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

If you want to cut , I’d push your cardio more . I know that sounds obvious but it doesn’t have to be running at half five wrapped in bin bags 

adding these at the start or beginning of any session will get the lungs opened 

I get that mate but if you're in a cut, whether that's through diet or added cardio, it makes It difficult to progress with those sort of 5x5 routines. I do think I should do more cardio, but then again I'm often doing 10,000 to 15,000 steps a day with work and walking the dog.