weight training

[Billy b 773]

Weight training can be great for people as they age, when people think resistance training they immediately think bodybuilding and roids, but weight training for people who are aging can mean keeping grip strength as good as possible, strength in the legs for keeping mobile and able as possible, with muscle particularly as you get older if you don't use it you'll lose it.

Talking of bodybuilding I always thought lee haney talked a lot of sense, lee had lots of dealings with evander holyfield aswell 

'You can fool those muscles but you can't fool those joints' was haneys words when talking about making a light weight feel heavy, that if you can make x or y amount of weight feel like a million pounds then you'll be better longevity wise 

I think it should be general common sense that If you don't look after yourself and if you lift things you clearly cannot lift properly, then you are gonna Injure yourself, and if you don't rest and eat properly. But other than that, done correctly weight training can and will 100% improve your life physically and mentally. 

[Pewit 970]

23 minutes ago, Billy b said:

Weight training can be great for people as they age, when people think resistance training they immediately think bodybuilding and roids, but weight training for people who are aging can mean keeping grip strength as good as possible, strength in the legs for keeping mobile and able as possible, with muscle particularly as you get older if you don't use it you'll lose it.

Talking of bodybuilding I always thought lee haney talked a lot of sense, lee had lots of dealings with evander holyfield aswell 

'You can fool those muscles but you can't fool those joints' was haneys words when talking about making a light weight feel heavy, that if you can make x or y amount of weight feel like a million pounds then you'll be better longevity wise 

I think it should be general common sense that If you don't look after yourself and if you lift things you clearly cannot lift properly, then you are gonna Injure yourself, and if you don't rest and eat properly. But other than that, done correctly weight training can and will 100% improve your life physically and mentally. 

Good post and Holyfield working with Haney is another alarm bell signalling his clear PED abuse. No doubt about it he was a machine of a man but the amount of lean muscle he put on was incredible. Regarding tendon strength and working with light weights, I read a fascinating article which made sense, it was a workout plan that emphasised partial reps and other techniques, once you mastered them all you then added weight. It was much slower than your typical progressive overload routine, routines that are just not realistic once the weight starts adding up.

[Bush Rummager 4,600]

32 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

yes mate if it’s for a reason you weigh it up

but otherwise fack that 

anyone taking them for a while will have issues the harden your arteries left ventricle. make the heart thicker a lot will have heart disease and no even know it 

I've seen mates younger than me go down that slippery slope of no return! Necking the viaggys and windmilling like f**k in their late 30's. Body having consumed their nuts. It's a big price to pay to look good in the mirror! Full natty is the way to go. We'll still be walking Nocton fen when they're long gone!! Lol...

[Billy b 773]

5 minutes ago, Pewit said:

Good post and Holyfield working with Haney is another alarm bell signalling his clear PED abuse. No doubt about it he was a machine of a man but the amount of lean muscle he put on was incredible. Regarding tendon strength and working with light weights, I read a fascinating article which made sense, it was a workout plan that emphasised partial reps and other techniques, once you mastered them all you then added weight. It was much slower than your typical progressive overload routine, routines that are just not realistic once the weight starts adding up.

Yeah the amount and the time frame he did it in aswell, definitely a machine though ad you say. Sounds an interesting article mate and certainly one I would agree with. Also partial reps and things in general are fantastic for building muscle, I find full ROM is better for say explosive power and for sports, but for aesthetics partial reps can be great, especially if you are long limbed, your bodies mechanics and someone else's may be completely different, how you perform the rep may give the next man discomfort and vice versa. Also with each muscle you do need a good stretch and squeeze but take the chest for example, hold your hand on it and move your arms about you can feel the angles that it's working In, alot of the times with full rom you can take the tension completely out of the chest and pass it onto the next muscle group, again for powerlifting and sports this is great but if you are simply trying to build a chest you don't need to always do full rom. 

 

That does sound a good article, and progressive overload can be took to silly extremes too soon with some people, small weight increments are the way forward ,not big leaps, controlling the weight on the negative movement is so important imo and this can't be done with silly jumps. Only recently a fella in the gym I'm at has done a total number on his rotator cuff and that's a serious issue cos if you don't nip that in the bud rehab wise it will more than likely become a recurring injury. People don't seem to warm up either these days before a big bench or squat,  madness. 

 

Also physical strain can mean anything, not just weights, cardio too, there's a fine line between getting the best out of yourself and having something left on the table, and just totally destroying yourself and running yourself down. It's like an athlete has to peak at the right time, and you can't maintain peak fitness for too long else you'll be run down, so it's not just weights that can negatively affect you, too much heavy cardio can aswell, you want to be fit and strong but not zapped of energy 

[iworkwhippets 12,575]

Only weights I lift, are my dinner plates, I'm just over 6 foot, weight 13 stone  eat like a pig, 

[Billy b 773]

Haha, that's another thing, grub, so important, whether you're trying to get in shape and be lean, or get bigger and gain more mass, it just isn't happening either way it the grub isn't up to scratch

A lot of people have it alright gym wise, good lifts and things, but it all falls short and they aren't anywhere near what they could be because the diet just isn't right 

[scotty12 1,988]

6 hours ago, TOMO said:

Mate some people get lucky...or other factors at work...look at my auntie 103 year old smoked all her life ...still does...and she's been vegetarian for about 30 years...

Then look at her own daughter my cousin...dead at 62 ...very clean living vegetarian as well...didn't smoke not overweight etc...died of cancer 

Seeing some videos recently that nicotine is actually good for you believe it or not ..... things are wrotten but who knows everything to do with our health they lie about anyways 

[iworkwhippets 12,575]

2 hours ago, Billy b said:

Weight training can be great for people as they age, when people think resistance training they immediately think bodybuilding and roids, but weight training for people who are aging can mean keeping grip strength as good as possible, strength in the legs for keeping mobile and able as possible, with muscle particularly as you get older if you don't use it you'll lose it.

Talking of bodybuilding I always thought lee haney talked a lot of sense, lee had lots of dealings with evander holyfield aswell 

'You can fool those muscles but you can't fool those joints' was haneys words when talking about making a light weight feel heavy, that if you can make x or y amount of weight feel like a million pounds then you'll be better longevity wise 

I think it should be general common sense that If you don't look after yourself and if you lift things you clearly cannot lift properly, then you are gonna Injure yourself, and if you don't rest and eat properly. But other than that, done correctly weight training can and will 100% improve your life physically and mentally. 

To right is that my son, lifting things properly, I did a job fer a neighbour last week, I had to shift an elec cooker to get at the job I was doing, bloody thing weighed a tonne , I'm marks on my legs summat wrotten, i just won't accept im years of age, my brain  jusy wont accept it, as fer diet, i can eat a spud more than a pig, i turn my nose up  at nowt, mostly junk foods

[king 11,972]

On 18/08/2024 at 11:28, TOMO said:

King how you getting on mate...have the docs given you a reason for the attack ....is it linked to the trt??? or other factors ..or a combination of trt and other issues??

Must be a big worry for you and the family...best wishes to you all and a speedy recovery 

Hi mate..plaque and fatty deposits poor diet and smoking are the main culprits mate..hopefully.being released in the next few hrs mate..6 tablets a day from now on..but ey sadly there will be people coming in here who are worse off than me so in a strange way I am lucky it isn't much much worse mate..

[shaaark 10,780]

46 minutes ago, king said:

Hi mate..plaque and fatty deposits poor diet and smoking are the main culprits mate..hopefully.being released in the next few hrs mate..6 tablets a day from now on..but ey sadly there will be people coming in here who are worse off than me so in a strange way I am lucky it isn't much much worse mate..

Hey kingy, jumping off pen y fan mountain holding on to a bedsheet must've added 10 years worth of stress to your heart!!  Lol.

Have a quick recovery, and take it easy, ya mad f****r!!  Lol 

 

[TOMO 26,175]

2 hours ago, king said:

Hi mate..plaque and fatty deposits poor diet and smoking are the main culprits mate..hopefully.being released in the next few hrs mate..6 tablets a day from now on..but ey sadly there will be people coming in here who are worse off than me so in a strange way I am lucky it isn't much much worse mate..

Well you know what you got to do then...quit the fag's and shite food...need to for your kids sake...can you carry on with the trt..?

By the way what's the tablets they gave you

[Pewit 970]

First day back at the gym in months, didn't go in with a plan and just did a few push exercises. Any recommend routines?

[dogmandont 9,824]

3 hours ago, king said:

Hi mate..plaque and fatty deposits poor diet and smoking are the main culprits mate..hopefully.being released in the next few hrs mate..6 tablets a day from now on..but ey sadly there will be people coming in here who are worse off than me so in a strange way I am lucky it isn't much much worse mate..

Hope you have a quick recovery king. 

[king 11,972]

45 minutes ago, TOMO said:

Well you know what you got to do then...quit the fag's and shite food...need to for your kids sake...can you carry on with the trt..?

By the way what's the tablets they gave you

What's weird mate is I haven't got the slightest urge for a fag..and haven't had a fag since Friday...

[Billy b 773]

1 hour ago, Pewit said:

First day back at the gym in months, didn't go in with a plan and just did a few push exercises. Any recommend routines?

Depends on your goals really. Push pull legs is a good one, however I find with that routine it can also leave a lot of lifts suffering, I ran PPL for a while but have recently gone back to a split and am loving it, the reason I stopped with PPL was because on push day for example it's a lot on the shoulders, for example bench and overhead press in the same session, one is going to suffer depending on which one you do first, even if you use cables or dumbbells

I think the biggest benefit of PPL was time, you can get done in 3days gym wise and then focus on cardio etc, but I felt after a while alot of lifts were suffering due to pre exhaustion

If i were I'd either do a split or compound lifts without it being PPL if you get me, and cardio in between if you want to do some, get on the rower and things on days when you don't do weights, but personally I never do both in the same session, either cardio in the morning or weights in the evening, or cardio on a separate day to weights entirely, some lifts like clean and press get you fit aswell as strong, but in general cardio and weights for me should be done seperate unless you want to go down the hyrox or crossfit route