hot dog 133 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Any predictions of the england score. 3-1 to England and England to win the tournament. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,141 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 59 minutes ago, hot dog said: Any predictions of the england score. 3-1 to England and England to win the tournament. Love your optimism mate.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 784 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 england have not won a tournament since they have had a black player in the team 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 As much as he gets maligned , that fifteen minute period at the start of the second happy shows exactly why we need McGuire . That defence looked all at see there , no unifying voice , no loud commands , absolutely his business and it’s missing there . I don’t know how but to phrase it , and I know this will bite me , but saka is the master of “ i need to push this past him and knock on , but I’ll get pushed over , so I won’t “ it’s a lack of belief that shouldn’t be in a player of his talents . england look well here imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 25 minutes ago, paddyluke said: england have not won a tournament since they have had a black player in the team Ironically I think we Will see bellingham rise to be the first English player to be spoken about as an all time great of the highest quality . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,016 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Ironically I think we Will see bellingham rise to be the first English player to be spoken about as an all time great of the highest quality . B Charlton, Bobby Moore, Shearer, Greaves Banks, perhaps Rooney. All time greats Stiff. Modern players are fitter,more clued up and play on grass not mud. But the above ,and a few more, were greats of the highest quality imo. Three of the above won the World Cup . Pretty good going! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 8 minutes ago, jukel123 said: B Charlton, Bobby Moore, Shearer, Greaves Banks, perhaps Rooney. All time greats Stiff. Modern players are fitter,more clued up and play on grass not mud. But the above ,and a few more, were greats of the highest quality imo. Three of the above won the World Cup . Pretty good going! Bellingham will win England a trophy . hes a twenty year old Englishman and he’s arguably the best player in the world at the minute . He’s won more this season than shearer did in two decades buddy . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,089 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: hes a twenty year old Englishman and he’s arguably the best player in the world at the minute . Zindane said the very same he also said he was gutted he wasn't french as Bellingham would lift them the title given his intelligence and vision 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Literally spent the whole game watching him mate , he’s genuinely a class class act . Everything about him is basics done well , never ever gets himself hassled or hurried. i watched him for Dortmund against rangers in the champions league and thought he was very standard . Looking back , I wasn’t thinking how at 17 , he was faultless that game . watch how he sits in that half turn , and if he’s back to travel , look how aware he is of tge ball and where it’s best to go . 20 years old , at Real Madrid , player of the la liga , champions league and title winner , now standing on a pitch , pointing passes, snapping orders at players from Man City and Liverpool like they have won a charity space in a testimonial . we’ve never had a player like him in this country , like winning the lottery 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,016 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Don't disagree about Bellingham at all. Shearer played in a bum team and still holds the premiership all time goalscoring record. A world class player imo. A side issue,but I respect his decision to turn down Man Utd as well. Professionally bonkers, but I applaud him. He was his own man. Depressing pundit though. Bring back Saint and Greavsie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,089 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 46 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: As much as he gets maligned , that fifteen minute period at the start of the second happy shows exactly why we need McGuire . That defence looked all at see there , no unifying voice , no loud commands , absolutely his business and it’s missing there . I don’t know how but to phrase it , and I know this will bite me , but saka is the master of “ i need to push this past him and knock on , but I’ll get pushed over , so I won’t “ it’s a lack of belief that shouldn’t be in a player of his talents . england look well here imho Wouldn't mind seeing how Palmer would slot in instead of saka as he seems to have a bit more about him defensively but i thought saka had a good first half 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,016 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Just now, Blackmag said: Wouldn't mind seeing how Palmer would slot in instead of saka as he seems to have a bit more about him defensively but i thought saka had a good first half England could do with a classy centre half. Stiff Maguire is nowhere near the standard required, same for Stones. A ball playing , composed centre half in the style of Ferdinand is required I reckon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,089 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 4 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Literally spent the whole game watching him mate , he’s genuinely a class class act . Everything about him is basics done well , never ever gets himself hassled or hurried. i watched him for Dortmund against rangers in the champions league and thought he was very standard . Looking back , I wasn’t thinking how at 17 , he was faultless that game . watch how he sits in that half turn , and if he’s back to travel , look how aware he is of tge ball and where it’s best to go . 20 years old , at Real Madrid , player of the la liga , champions league and title winner , now standing on a pitch , pointing passes, snapping orders at players from Man City and Liverpool like they have won a charity space in a testimonial . we’ve never had a player like him in this country , like winning the lottery Totally agree I and many other fans must forget his age given his performances his touch vision he has everything and when zindane his banging his praises at that age you know he's a different talent to most and from what I have I seen of him off the pitch he's a very level headed and humble lad a credit to his parents 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,878 Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: England could do with a classy centre half. Stiff Maguire is nowhere near the standard required, same for Stones. A ball playing , composed centre half in the style of Ferdinand is required I reckon. Do you not think McGuire adds Value in the three lions though ? More than the sum of his parts ? When he’s not there the defence looks messy . I think he neatly slides in and leads the line very well for country allowing stones and others to deal with threats he points out . A hard quality to replace imho . rice was imperious tonight also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hot dog 133 Posted June 16 Author Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, TOMO said: Love your optimism mate.. Yeah.a load of shit that was in thd end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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