shaaark 10,752 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, lurcherman 887 said: My boy has been a treat to own lol not a problem with him once, my girl though is doing this don’t want to go to school stuff not getting up in the morning ect she actually just text me saying she wants to come home and if she can’t she’s going to sit in the toilet for the full day. She’s 13 and becoming hard work Had all that nonsense, hiding in the toilets, and wherever else, as well. f***ing nightmare!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 minute ago, Deker said: Private every time, but you need to find the right one and have deep pockets!!! I think that is a decent rule of thumb, much like private healthcare…..they are doing a proper job minus the bollocks. However, I don’t think it’s a rule, plenty of good kids came out of state school. I also think we need to consider (and ask) what kids want their life to look like……a parents idea of success may not be a kids idea of success and I don’t seem much point in torturing them for 5 years in an institution where they are not happy…..it’s self defeating. My daughters boyfriend has a masters in physics and some other shit I don’t understand and was in education until 24 years old, grammar school, the whole “path to success” as most people envision it……he has had a couple of jobs, let go from the first, just been let go from this one and will have to apply to about 200 jobs to get a sniff he tells me. I said to him, there are more people with fantastic degrees serving tradesmen their morning coffee than there has ever been……which isn’t to say education don’t matter and the best establishments ain’t fantastic because it does and they are, but in my experience in schools happiness and community wins, always. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 (edited) 13 minutes ago, shaaark said: Honestly, wilf, for the last three years, we've had nothing but aggravation with him. We've tried absolutely everything, school meetings, because he just walks out of lessons, walks out of school, is very disruptive when he actually is in a lesson. We've had the police here, because the school have had to report him as a missing person. Phone calls, ad nauseum, from the school, lost count of the number of letters they've sent us, regarding his behaviour etc etc etc, all because 'I can't stand being in school'. School has actually arranged it so that he can skip going to school on a daily basis, and just go in to do his exams. Biggest surprise to me, will be if he actually passes one exam!! They don’t give us a manual for being parents do they mate, I feel your pain, can’t have been easy for you. He will come good, he just ain’t found his niche yet…..something they do here I think would be good in the uk. They are called vocational schools and they are for boys and girls like your lad (and like I was) who are sick of the school system…..you get to ware your own clothes and they teach you trades and computer skills and all sorts but in a non school setting g where you are treated like a grown up. They are tidy and a trick we could use in the uk Edited June 10 by WILF 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,502 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 12 minutes ago, shaaark said: Honestly, wilf, for the last three years, we've had nothing but aggravation with him. We've tried absolutely everything, school meetings, because he just walks out of lessons, walks out of school, is very disruptive when he actually is in a lesson. We've had the police here, because the school have had to report him as a missing person. Phone calls, ad nauseum, from the school, lost count of the number of letters they've sent us, regarding his behaviour etc etc etc, all because 'I can't stand being in school'. School has actually arranged it so that he can skip going to school on a daily basis, and just go in to do his exams. Biggest surprise to me, will be if he actually passes one exam!! there’s hope yet shaark i didn’t do any gcse left after a few year a secondary and look at me lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,752 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 2 minutes ago, WILF said: They don’t give us a manual for being parents do they mate, I feel your pain, can’t have been easy for you. He will come good, he just ain’t found his niche yet…..something they do here I think would be good in the uk. They are called vocational schools and they are for boys and girls like your lad (and like I was) who are sick of the school system…..you get to ware your own clothes and they teach you trades and computer skills and all sorts but in a non school setting g where you are treated like a grown up. They are tidy and a trick we could use in the uk Seems a better, more sensible idea, certainly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,502 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 6 minutes ago, WILF said: I think that is a decent rule of thumb, much like private healthcare…..they are doing a proper job minus the bollocks. However, I don’t think it’s a rule, plenty of good kids came out of state school. I also think we need to consider (and ask) what kids want their life to look like……a parents idea of success may not be a kids idea of success and I don’t seem much point in torturing them for 5 years in an institution where they are not happy…..it’s self defeating. My daughters boyfriend has a masters in physics and some other shit I don’t understand and was in education until 24 years old, grammar school, the whole “path to success” as most people envision it……he has had a couple of jobs, let go from the first, just been let go from this one and will have to apply to about 200 jobs to get a sniff he tells me. I said to him, there are more people with fantastic degrees serving tradesmen their morning coffee than there has ever been……which isn’t to say education don’t matter and the best establishments ain’t fantastic because it does and they are, but in my experience in schools happiness and community wins, always. good post wilf ourlass sister about 24 now college uni degrees clever as our book smart but thick as f**k lol no job same with home schooling kids i know who are home schooled ain’t got nothing about them there a sitting target for other kids lovely pleasant kids but soft weak some kids just ain’t made to sit listening are they i wouldn’t worry about Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,752 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: there’s hope yet shaark i didn’t do any gcse left after a few year a secondary and look at me lol Lol I get you, Gooey, but you seem to have a fair bit of work ethic, and have a go. He has no energy or enthusiasm for anything. We don't know how or why he's like it, because his two older brothers certainly ain't like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,502 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 4 minutes ago, WILF said: They don’t give us a manual for being parents do they mate, I feel your pain, can’t have been easy for you. He will come good, he just ain’t found his niche yet…..something they do here I think would be good in the uk. They are called vocational schools and they are for boys and girls like your lad (and like I was) who are sick of the school system…..you get to ware your own clothes and they teach you trades and computer skills and all sorts but in a non school setting g where you are treated like a grown up. They are tidy and a trick we could use in the uk they have or had it here mate i went to one on industrial estate just fixing motorbikes all day lads from every area differnet schools so you had to throw down a bit lol id go 3 days the filth would take me cub90 or whatever i had at the time and they would let them have it for the kids to work on id go back on my days put them back together sick they were getting took apart that caused more emotional anguish lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,356 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 28 minutes ago, shaaark said: Honestly, wilf, for the last three years, we've had nothing but aggravation with him. We've tried absolutely everything, school meetings, because he just walks out of lessons, walks out of school, is very disruptive when he actually is in a lesson. We've had the police here, because the school have had to report him as a missing person. Phone calls, ad nauseum, from the school, lost count of the number of letters they've sent us, regarding his behaviour etc etc etc, all because 'I can't stand being in school'. School has actually arranged it so that he can skip going to school on a daily basis, and just go in to do his exams. Biggest surprise to me, will be if he actually passes one exam!! Sounds like my 13 year old daughter pulled her out of 3 different schools.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,356 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 28 minutes ago, mC HULL said: good post wilf ourlass sister about 24 now college uni degrees clever as our book smart but thick as f**k lol no job same with home schooling kids i know who are home schooled ain’t got nothing about them there a sitting target for other kids lovely pleasant kids but soft weak some kids just ain’t made to sit listening are they i wouldn’t worry about Trust me,my kids will not be a target for no cnut...both been expelled from multiple schools for fighting when someone thought they could boy them off....thats why we went down the home schooling route...both are now thriving and want to learn...f**k exams,more important to teach them life skills so they can get out and earn money in the real world imo ,nothing i learnt in school had any bearing on where I am now 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, shaaark said: Honestly, wilf, for the last three years, we've had nothing but aggravation with him. We've tried absolutely everything, school meetings, because he just walks out of lessons, walks out of school, is very disruptive when he actually is in a lesson. We've had the police here, because the school have had to report him as a missing person. Phone calls, ad nauseum, from the school, lost count of the number of letters they've sent us, regarding his behaviour etc etc etc, all because 'I can't stand being in school'. School has actually arranged it so that he can skip going to school on a daily basis, and just go in to do his exams. Biggest surprise to me, will be if he actually passes one exam!! Bet you spared him the Alkathene pipe growing up, its all your fault 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,001 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 There are more vocational quals about now and apprenticeships are increasing, but most would need some form of maths and English I guess it's gsces still. But again these can be done later long after leaving school. I think we all know people that have been highly successful without a single bit of paper, I guess you got to play cards you're dealt and take what opportunity you can , as long as my lads ain't sat in a dead end job moaning about it, happy days... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,502 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: Trust me,my kids will not be a target for no cnut...both been expelled from multiple schools for fighting when someone thought they could boy them off....thats why we went down the home schooling route...both are now thriving and want to learn...f**k exams,more important to teach them life skills so they can get out and earn money in the real world imo ,nothing i learnt in school had any bearing on where I am now that’s it mate no good home schooling and keeping them in they need socilising as long as there happy and have a good head on there shoulders that’s all matters as you say they teach you no life skills at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mr moocher 930 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 my yougest daughter has four degrees shes head of her department,she had the chance to go work in america but did not want to leave her family,shes gonna take i think its called a masters degree and she wants to be an advisor to big companys shes very happy with her job she works from home most days 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,356 Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 18 minutes ago, mC HULL said: that’s it mate no good home schooling and keeping them in they need socilising as long as there happy and have a good head on there shoulders that’s all matters as you say they teach you no life skills at all Mate my 2 eldest are semi- feral ,cant keep them indoorsboth are little grafters,not afraid too have a go... daughter helps my mrs with her little business,just sorted a summer job for my 14 yr old lad, labouring for some builder mates...4 hrs a day £50...keep him busy for 6 weeks 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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