mackem 26,942 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, shaaark said: Scopophobia? But I was going to suggest scotophobia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,331 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, BGD said: My experience being involved with the exotics trade for decades and my pals who were some of the biggest names in importing and dealing in large exotic mammals before and after the ban. How many big cats do you think were in private hands before the ban then? 400? How would the authorities know how many there were? Wasn't that the reason for the change in the law, to keep a track? There must be some who successively applied for a licence? If any of their cats escaped, wouldn't they keep it quiet to keep their licence or avoid punishment? Edited June 8, 2024 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 5 hours ago, mackem said: Stiffys doing a fine job of making a cock of himself without the help of the sites walter Mitty, thanks 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,102 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 25 minutes ago, shaaark said: So, with this information of yours, and I have no reason to disbelieve you, and a few others on this site, keepdiggin, Arry and a few few others, stiffy and Co are calling you all liars. Now, I know for a FACT, in 2014 my Mrs was NOT allowed to visit our eldest lad, in a residential care home in Hereford, and him and the other lads there weren't allowed outside of the grounds, due large non native cat on the loose which had attacked a couple of horses and also sheep. Go f**k yourself you wee stirrer never once called any of the above a liar the thread , for some reason was pointed at me , and I think it’s fair to say that any rational person would ask the same questions . that bird set that sample up , clear as day , for all you Truth seekers I find it incredulous that none have you have cottoned on to a fact 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,942 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Stiffys doing a fine job of making a cock of himself without the help of the sites walter Mitty, thanks No Walter Mitty here mate,I always post pics,gimmee a short while and I will stick up a vid of a genuine tiger pug on a jungle track,we had walked down in the morning,it came down the same trail in the afternoon,I will find it on an old phone and stick it up. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 23 minutes ago, BGD said: My experience being involved with the exotics trade for decades and my pals who were some of the biggest names in importing and dealing in large exotic mammals before and after the ban. How many big cats do you think were in private hands before the ban then? I would have thought you would know the answer to that as the biggest importer of exotic animals, you should also know how easy cats are to breed and people were breeding in captivity for the pet trade just like they are today with bengals and savannah cats etc having a pet shop and a few parrots don’t make you joey exotic so unless you have something a little more substantial than that I’d not bother getting involved trying to answer a question with another question is just equal to nothing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Go f**k yourself you wee stirrer never once called any of the above a liar the thread , for some reason was pointed at me , and I think it’s fair to say that any rational person would ask the same questions . that bird set that sample up , clear as day , for all you Truth seekers I find it incredulous that none have you have cottoned on to a fact Prick 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, mackem said: No Walter Mitty here mate,I always post pics,gimmee a short while and I will stick up a vid of a genuine tiger pug on a jungle track,we had walked down in the morning,it came down the same trail in the afternoon,I will find it on an old phone and stick it up. Your a bigger bullshitter than Tom pepper and he was hung for it get back in the wardrobe you clown 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,331 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 1 minute ago, mackem said: No Walter Mitty here mate,I always post pics,gimmee a short while and I will stick up a vid of a genuine tiger pug on a jungle track,we had walked down in the morning,it came down the same trail in the afternoon,I will find it on an old phone and stick it up. That would have been an experience. I remember once spending a whole day in Marwell zoo. I watched cheetah cubs and snow leopard cubs playing all afternoon. I was one of the last ones to leave and I walked down an avenue of big cats waiting to be fed. The roaring literally set the hairs on my head on end. That was a fantastic experience. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,331 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 (edited) Oops, debate can only go so far on THL without the handbags coming out. Postcodes exchanged very soon. I'm out. Edited June 8, 2024 by jukel123 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,876 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Go f**k yourself you wee stirrer never once called any of the above a liar the thread , for some reason was pointed at me , and I think it’s fair to say that any rational person would ask the same questions . that bird set that sample up , clear as day , for all you Truth seekers I find it incredulous that none have you have cottoned on to a fact Kin el, stiffy, you seriously need to chill!! Lol. And yeah, you ARE calling people on this site that say they've seen non native big cats, in the british countryside, liars. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,743 Posted June 8, 2024 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, shaaark said: Kin el, stiffy, you seriously need to chill!! Lol. And yeah, you ARE calling people on this site that say they've seen non native big cats, in the british countryside, liars. That seems why many people on here tell me on private pms because the one or two belters always shout the loudest so it’s not worth bothering 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 10 minutes ago, jukel123 said: 400? How would the authorities know how many there were? Wasn't that the reason for the change in the law, to keep a track? There must be some who successively applied for a licence? If any of their cats escaped, wouldn't they keep it quiet to keep their licence or avoid punishment? It's all estimates based on numbers imported and sold but my pal who like I say was one of the biggest dealers at the time reckons at the time of the ban less than 500 were in private hands and the majority of them were either surrendered or the owners got the licence and carried on keeping them legally. As for keeping escapees under wraps well it'd lead to an awkward conversion when it came time for your renewal and inspection and you had one less cat and no proof of where it went. The fact is the majority of cats sold in the UK never even made it to adulthood, the trade was a constant churn of cubs that were bought by folk who had no way of handling them as they grew and so they'd die of neglect, honestly a really grim trade and I'm glad it was stopped. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,942 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, Greyman said: Your a bigger bullshitter than Tom pepper and he was hung for it get back in the wardrobe you clown Calm down,I don’t normally mention UK big cats nowadays but just for you let me put the tiger pug up your being abusive again,your the big cat expert not me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,102 Posted June 8, 2024 Report Share Posted June 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, Greyman said: Prick And what ? 7 minutes ago, jukel123 said: That would have been an experience. I remember once spending a whole day in Marwell zoo. I watched cheetah cubs and snow leopard cubs playing all afternoon. I was one of the last ones to leave and I walked down an avenue of big cats waiting to be fed. The roaring literally set the hairs on my head on end. That was a fantastic experience. Similar to being in the south lakes I’d imagine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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