THE STIFFMEISTER 15,711 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 17 minutes ago, Greyman said: You do disappoint me I did think you may get some grasp of things but obviously not Sharon dedicates her life to what she does, she follows up reports as she gets them which puts her in places that are active thereby increasing her chances of success, it’s a very simple formula effort = reward, you keep on making outlandish statements that have absolutely no substance but are good enough to convince you that your right, last time you claimed there might be a few escapees,( about a 100 a year according to reports) but when I explained to you that there is one captive black leopard in the uk you chose to ignore it, now you are clearly showing even more ignorance claiming we are planting dna which is even more ridiculous as we are attempting to build a database which would all just come tumbling down if all the samples came back to that one captive individual, mountain lions would be far easier as there are far more in captivity yet we have none so far strangely, I think my first impression was the right one, you are clearly in the category that has to be told by a superior how to think which will always mean you just run with the crowd, but never lead it guess we will just have to pioneer on without you The biggest outlandish statement made is the existence of big cats . Thats the biggest as by default outlandish means without evidence. your mate , which I assume she is , is strolling round with a jungle cat , visiting British Columbia etc . It’s getting to the point where the kills of local deer are being reported as big cat evidence on local media pages . her sighting is the equivalent of someone with a men in black t shirt on and a fox mulder “I want to believe “ poster in the their bedroom walking in a field and a ufo flying overhead . It’s too circumstantial . Especially with it being Halloween , black cats , witches etc . It’s almost childlike in its conception. again , I’ve said to you what you do is a worthwhile endeavour , but again you keep insinuating my profession makes me a brainless moron with no concept of free thinking. Que Sara. that woman planted dna in there , it would take monumental evidence to convince anyone otherwise . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,812 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 about 25 years ago i was lamping the fields opposite my house and saw a dead sheep in the field and when i shone the lamp on it could see an eye reflection walked up to it and could see this carcass moving and could hear something inside it and low and behold 4 little kitten heads popped ,up a week later came home to find one kitten in my yard shivering on deaths door brought it inside fed it tuna and amazingly survived and i had that cat for about 11 years only cat I've ever owned called it LILLY because it was bit savage 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,186 Posted June 8 Author Report Share Posted June 8 52 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: The biggest outlandish statement made is the existence of big cats . Thats the biggest as by default outlandish means without evidence. your mate , which I assume she is , is strolling round with a jungle cat , visiting British Columbia etc . It’s getting to the point where the kills of local deer are being reported as big cat evidence on local media pages . her sighting is the equivalent of someone with a men in black t shirt on and a fox mulder “I want to believe “ poster in the their bedroom walking in a field and a ufo flying overhead . It’s too circumstantial . Especially with it being Halloween , black cats , witches etc . It’s almost childlike in its conception. again , I’ve said to you what you do is a worthwhile endeavour , but again you keep insinuating my profession makes me a brainless moron with no concept of free thinking. Que Sara. that woman planted dna in there , it would take monumental evidence to convince anyone otherwise . There is only no evidence if your to blinkered and small minded to see what’s before you now you are accusing people of planting dna, I think if we presented our cases in a court of law you would be laughed out the door, Warwick university and the royal agricultural university would probably spot our fakery and not be willing to put there names to what we are doing if anything you are saying could be substantiated, but you seem to be that person that just makes the most noise and thinks it makes you right, I will bow out now as it’s becoming a pointless discussion when your best case is shouting liar and hoping others agree 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 I don't know what people get so het up about. There's dozens of hobbies which leave me cold: golf, pride in cars and motorbikes, grand prix racing, computer games etc. My Mrs once arranged for me to spend an afternoon with her friend's husband playing f****n war games. Time I will never get back. I've never forgiven her.Lol. Let the big cat detectives do what they want to do. No skin off anybody's nose. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,711 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 25 minutes ago, jukel123 said: 26 minutes ago, Greyman said: There is only no evidence if your to blinkered and small minded to see what’s before you now you are accusing people of planting dna, I think if we presented our cases in a court of law you would be laughed out the door, Warwick university and the royal agricultural university would probably spot our fakery and not be willing to put there names to what we are doing if anything you are saying could be substantiated, but you seem to be that person that just makes the most noise and thinks it makes you right, I will bow out now as it’s becoming a pointless discussion when your best case is shouting liar and hoping others dreamers , evidence of a big cat kill in Caithness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,711 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 Gretna 2014 , close to Halloween 2023 sighting . another miraculous day of driving 50 miles from home and bumping randomly into a big black cat in daytime. Almost like there’s a pattern there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 (edited) You should start a" Big Cats UK is Bollocks" Stiff. Membership fees, stalls at shows,T shirts. Might be a good earner. I can see a televised debate between you and Greyman. Edited June 8 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,186 Posted June 8 Author Report Share Posted June 8 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: You should start a" UK Big Cats UK is Bollocks" Stiff. Membership fees, stalls at shows,T shirts. Might be a good earner. I can see a televised debate between you and Greyman. Trouble with that mate it would require some effort, thinking outside the box,and self belief that’s why it is me in the media while the stiffy is stood in a line of clones waiting to be told wether to wheel left or right 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,711 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 2 minutes ago, Greyman said: Trouble with that mate it would require some effort, thinking outside the box,and self belief that’s why it is me in the media while the stiffy is stood in a line of clones waiting to be told wether to wheel left or right Right this way you maverick renegade 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,261 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 7 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Right this way you maverick renegade 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,122 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 Its a funny old world,when most of the population,rolled up their sleeves multiple times,too take an experimental vaccine...in the belief the government had their best interests at heart but struggle with the thought of a few released big cats wandering around the place... 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,706 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 2 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Its a funny old world,when most of the population,rolled up their sleeves multiple times,too take an experimental vaccine...in the belief the government had their best interests at heart but struggle with the thought of a few released big cats wandering around the place... And what about the memers of this site, that have seen non native big cats in this country, whilst out at night, are they all liars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,122 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 1 minute ago, shaaark said: And what about the memers of this site, that have seen non native big cats in this country, whilst out at night, are they all liars? Exactly mate....theres folks been farming 60 plus yrs and dont even know they have badgers on their land 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,706 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 14 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Exactly mate....theres folks been farming 60 plus yrs and dont even know they have badgers on their land I know a few people like that D c, they could walk a 5000 acre area of land and see practically nothing!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,711 Posted June 8 Report Share Posted June 8 @shark @Daniel cain right , your getting the wrong end of this no one is doubting there are the odd escapee here and there . the nonsense lies in the omertà like silence of the lack of evidence . I’ve seen pics of a pair of privately owned pumas in the uk in a run like a partridge pen . The pics are taken at some distance and are clear as a whistle as to what they are, no ambiguity, that is a mountain lion in that picture . No doubt . Not a blurry shaped black mass , not hidden by grass , but clear as day . where are the absolute defining pics of wild roaming cats ? there’s none, there’s alway an “ah but “ A woman , who has a history of staging pics with her own jungle cat , drives from her home to a site where there is a history of sightings , on Halloween , in the day time , finds a dead carcass and a big cat lurking there. What are the odds ? a woman whose life revolves around big cats, going to places with them there, ie holidaying in big cat parks etc , gives a sample with just the right amount of dna to determine the presence , not too much mind , just the right amount from hairs or saliva . Almost like someone would know how to put it there . bear in mind a geezer from very close to her location used to import Puma piss from the USA to train his pack of hounds to hunt them . No one would be as pleased as me to see a true picture of a wild leopard or panther strolling about the Scottish Borders . but there not there. as far as I can see , I’ve not personally Insulted anyone , I don’t expect the same decorum in return , but facts don’t lie . You can’t just say “ah your never gonna believe gammon “ that’s not a valid retort 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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