mackem 25,986 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 18 minutes ago, WILF said: didn’t have the heart to tell him we had nicked all the lead off the roof a year back ! I honestly thought jukel was going to say the same about the church in Alston. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, mackem said: I honestly thought jukel was going to say the same about the church in Alston. Tbh, I did have a closet feel in the collection box. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OldPhil 5,654 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 (edited) 22 hours ago, jukel123 said: I've genuinely got an open mind about the presence of big cats in the UK. But why would the government want to suppress evidence of their existence? I remember some years back,.. being in the Ministry of Ag offices when submitting some new vermin traps for inclusion into the Spring Trap Approval Order..... One of the Scientists was showing me the Aldrich Foot Snare that had just undergone test, and was now officially approved. I asked him what this device could do that a well cocked Fox Wire couldn't....? I was quite taken aback,.. when he stated that the Trap was only intended for " Large Non Indigenous Mammalian Species"... "Like what",. I asked ?..... Edited June 5 by OldPhil 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 3 minutes ago, OldPhil said: I remember some years back,.. being in the Ministry of Ag offices when submitting some new vermin traps for inclusion into the Spring Trap Approval Order..... One of the Scientists was showing me the Aldrich Foot Snare that had just undergone test, and was now officially approved. I asked him what this device could do that a well cocked Fox Wire couldn't....? I was quite taken aback,.. when he stated that the Trap was only intended for "Non Indigenous Mammalian Species"... "Like what",. I asked ?..... You realise you have started a new immigrant debate? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,917 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 8 minutes ago, jukel123 said: You realise you have started a new immigrant debate? The wording has been altered over the years and I know it has been used successfully in the uk I own two they are adapted with soft cord snares 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,078 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: I was in Alston a few years back . I walked past an abandoned church and there was a bloke gardening in the church grounds. I happened to say to him what a magnificent building the church was and he replied "yes I've just bought it at auction" and he showed me round. It was truly stunning inside. He had paid next to nothing for it, he wasn't specific, but I know it was l less than 50 grand. He was hoping to convert it as a house for himself. I've been back a few times since and sadly theres been no work done. He anticipated planning problems and I guess he ran into plenty. We often ventured up there and even ended up with some nice permission. It may seem odd given the location, and I may be getting confused, but seem to remember it was good for a salmon run leading up to Christmas in small streams and we would shoot them with a .22 Ruger pistol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,986 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, eastcoast said: seem to remember it was good for a salmon run leading up to Christmas in small streams They will have been spent that late and that far up mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,078 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 minute ago, mackem said: They will have been spent that late and that far up mate. Thanks Mackem, at least I wasn't imagining it. Sure we still used to sell in the club though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,986 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 Just now, eastcoast said: Thanks Mackem, at least I wasn't imagining it. Sure we still used to sell in the club though The south Tyne up there, seen some really tatty fish way upstream late. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 4 Author Report Share Posted June 4 11 minutes ago, eastcoast said: We often ventured up there and even ended up with some nice permission. It may seem odd given the location, and I may be getting confused, but seem to remember it was good for a salmon run leading up to Christmas in small streams and we would shoot them with a .22 Ruger pistol. Sacrilege! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,218 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 2 hours ago, eastcoast said: A few lads I used to know would make the pilgrimage every year. Load the lurchers and/or Bedlingtons into the pick up towing the caravan and after signing on would send their family holidays there. One of the few times a year that the dogs got out of kennels and the caravans moved out of the street. Did they spunk all their giros on Rocky soaps? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,580 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Greyman said: No because the biggest sense you get from people at these shows is a relief that they can tell someone there experience without being mocked I,m quite good at reading people and it’s not hard to spot the bullshit I also get shown pictures on people’s phones etc that will never appear in the media, there are a lot of people with your views on the subject but if they are happy to listen and debate it’s good to have others opinions, as far as I am concerned we are well past the point of wether they are here or not and it’s more about learning all we can I also had a farmer at the show that was furious about the cats because of the livestock he had lost and his pictures confirmed everything he was saying but all he wanted to do was shoot them all but it’s not that easy most of the ones I here of that have been shot are not by people going out to do so they get an opportunity and a moment to make a decision some regret the decision others don’t, as I have said we are starting to make breakthroughs in DNA the government took our first one away so nothing surprises me in that department they are desperate to hide the truth but eventually they will have to sit down and talk about it, there are quite a few people on the podcast like police train drivers even politicians etc that are only allowed to speak because they have left the job, it is real and when I saw one myself I needed to to know more know more the 5 positive tests we have had so far have came from 2 freshly eaten animals one from a turd one from some black hair on a barbed wire fence near a fresh kill and one from a dead shot animal that would be enough for a conviction in court as you said occurs razor I think What would you say is the most absolute definitive evidence you have personally seen buddy ? wether a picture or video ? Etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 25,986 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 13 minutes ago, low plains drifter said: Did they spunk all their giros on Rocky soaps? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,078 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 13 minutes ago, low plains drifter said: Did they spunk all their giros on Rocky soaps? To be fair some still go there, the dogs now replaced by grand kids. Keeping the old British/Irish traditions going. I'm not knocking it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,218 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 29 minutes ago, mackem said: They will have been spent that late and that far up mate. Just like Jukels closet feel 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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