Trump guilty !!

[jukel123 8,056]

  I think Trump is a moral cesspit. His history of corruption, sexual abuse and lying is proven.  He fooled people into promising to drain the swamp. In fact hes one of the top snakes in the swamp. All politicians are  corrupt,lying wheeler dealers, but Trump is just beyond it. 

 

[Greyman 28,441]

Just now, jukel123 said:

  I think Trump is a moral cesspit. His history of corruption, sexual abuse and lying is proven.  He fooled people into promising to drain the swamp. In fact hes one of the top snakes in the swamp. All politicians are  corrupt,lying wheeler dealers, but Trump is just beyond it. 

 

And we go back to the Shepard the wolf and the sheep again, millions would not have been slaughtered in Ukraine and we wouldn’t be wasting billions of pounds there if he was president, just one tiny benefit unless it was your son being killed or your house being destroyed to anyone that can look beyond what they are told that is surely more important take your blinkers off and stop being led by your nose, mankind is an immoral cesspit full stop now I,m off before I get cross lol

[Bakerboy 4,736]

Going on what other political figures and their families have gotten away with in the USA its pretty plain to see this was a political indictment

[jukel123 8,056]

5 minutes ago, Greyman said:

And we go back to the Shepard the wolf and the sheep again, millions would not have been slaughtered in Ukraine and we wouldn’t be wasting billions of pounds there if he was president, just one tiny benefit unless it was your son being killed or your house being destroyed to anyone that can look beyond what they are told that is surely more important take your blinkers off and stop being led by your nose, mankind is an immoral cesspit full stop now I,m off before I get cross lol

Stop telling me what to think and getting cross because I don't agree. 

I can be a bit of a Mary Poppins. But what kind of role model is Trump for American youth? His message to them is grab women by the pussy, attack the symbol of American democracy by attacking the capital, avoid the draft by claiming you have heel spurs, rip people off etc,etc. That's some message to young people.

 

Edited May 31, 2024 by jukel123

[chartpolski 23,613]

1 hour ago, mel b said:

It's like they just don't hear or understand what's being said , and they are completely unaware of the blindingly obvious truth.

I've often wondered if politicians start life as scumbags , or if they start off as decent human beings , with a desire to do the right thing , but then the political system( and getting their snout in the trough) turns them into lieing cheating scumbags ?. 

To paraphrase Billy Connolly; “Any one who shows a desire to be a politician should be barred from ever becoming one” !

Cheers.

[DIDO.1 22,838]

51 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Stop telling me what to think and getting cross because I don't agree. 

I can be a bit of a Mary Poppins. But what kind of role model is Trump for American youth? His message to them is grab women by the pussy, attack the symbol of American democracy by attacking the capital, avoid the draft by claiming you have heel spurs, rip people off etc,etc. That's some message to young people.

 

Grab women by the pussy?

Bill Clinton actually did what trump joked about..... and his wife paid off those women. Yet it's not an issue at all?

[chartpolski 23,613]

1 hour ago, Bakerboy said:

When he wins the election in November he can pardon himself if all else fails 

Evidently he can only pardon himself with Federal offences , not State offences . This trial was brought by New York prosecutors not Federal prosecutors. 
Nixon, Clinton, Biden have never been charged and taken to court, seems a bit political to me, wether he did the crimes or not.

Cheers.

[WILF 46,834]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

He wasn't being tried for his morality but whether he had 'buried' the payment as business expenses. 

They would have every business owner on earth in jail if that’s the road they start going down……THAT is how meaningless the charges are mate.

Its like finding someone guilty of doing 31 in a 30 zone. 

[jukel123 8,056]

13 minutes ago, WILF said:

They would have every business owner on earth in jail if that’s the road they start going down……THAT is how meaningless the charges are mate.

Its like finding someone guilty of doing 31 in a 30 zone. 

Agreed, but the complication is electoral fraud. That's a big deal in a democracy.

[Greyman 28,441]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Stop telling me what to think and getting cross because I don't agree. 

I can be a bit of a Mary Poppins. But what kind of role model is Trump for American youth? His message to them is grab women by the pussy, attack the symbol of American democracy by attacking the capital, avoid the draft by claiming you have heel spurs, rip people off etc,etc. That's some message to young people.

 

Me telling you what to think,lol  no need for me to do that the daily mail and the bbc are doing a sterling job already, it’s about voting for someone that will improve your standard of living and the future of your offspring, I would vote for Adolf hitler or Attila the Hun if that is what they were offering me, personally I love looking in on the human zoo and find it quite amusing watching people like yourself getting hot under the collar about all the side shows that are on offer, the flashing lights bells and whistles whilst totally walking past the main event, 

[Greyman 28,441]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

Agreed, but the complication is electoral fraud. That's a big deal in a democracy.

I bet you think Biden won fairly as well, I got some magic beans for sale if your in the market lol 

[chartpolski 23,613]

Every Democrat and left wing commentator that I’ve heard being interviewed has said “ this shows no one is above the law” and “the law applies to everyone”.

Well , Trump is awaiting trial in Florida for having classified documents at his home. Biden had classified documents piled up in his garage at his home…. But no charges have been brought !  “ all equal under the law” eh ?

Cheers.

[jukel123 8,056]

12 minutes ago, Greyman said:

I bet you think Biden won fairly as well, I got some magic beans for sale if your in the market lol 

You are very personal today. I think I'm the last person to believe what I read in the Daily Mail or what I hear and read from the BBC.

My great grandmother was a traveller and used to sell magic beans . She would go door to door and tell people it was never a good idea to refuse to buy from a gypsy. Worked well.

Give more some info on your magic beans. Price,quality,delivery times etc. I'm thinking of Re- starting the family business.

 

Edited May 31, 2024 by jukel123

[WILF 46,834]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Agreed, but the complication is electoral fraud. That's a big deal in a democracy.

Fair enough mate, I’m not trying to “correct” you, after all we are all entitled to believe what we want.

My personal view is that they are so scared of Trump and his effect on the ordinary man (in a good way for the ordinary man) that they have bought the full weight of the state against him, blatantly, and they still can’t figure out why he is winning because he is winning…….they wouldn’t put all this time and energy into him if he wasn’t imho.

I think, again jmho, that we get sold a lot of spectacles while the real stuff is slipping under the fence….not even slipping under the fence really, it’s there in plain sight we just don’t think about outside the box.

You mention electoral fraud which is a fair enough thing to worry about but I just think “they are importing hundreds of thousands of voters who ain’t “you!” right in front of our face” …..if that ain’t rigging a vote then I don’t know what is ? 
 

Like that stupid c**t Sunak with his ludicrous “National service” sound bite…..they ain’t got the slightest intention of reintroducing national service but all the time we are in a tizzy about that then we ain’t talking about the 3rd world shit hole our country has become and how hundreds of thousands of the 3rd world are flooding in totally unopposed……

Angles mate, we have to always look for the angles and I’m sure you do but as I have been regularly saying to people, even the people we think we loath may turn out to be our friend if is breaks the current system even a little bit. 
Our enemy’s enemy is our friend. 

Edited May 31, 2024 by WILF
Fat thumbs and bad spelling !

[TRUEBRIT66 1,531]

52 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 

Give more some info on your magic beans. Price,quality,delivery times etc. I'm thinking of Re- starting the family business.

 

I will sale you some these even clean bottles £4.42 ignore the original price and where I get them from Im a UK trader Magic Beans Bottle Cleaner Reuseable Bottle Cleaning Sponge - Temu United Kingdom TEMU 

Edited May 31, 2024 by TRUEBRIT66