jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 33 minutes ago, WILF said: Fair enough mate, I’m not trying to “correct” you, after all we are all entitled to believe what we want. My personal view is that they are so scared of Trump and his effect on the ordinary man (in a good way for the ordinary man) that they have bought the full weight of the state against him, blatantly, and they still can’t figure out why he is winning because he is winning…….they wouldn’t put all this time and energy into him if he wasn’t imho. I think, again jmho, that we get sold a lot of spectacles while the real stuff is slipping under the fence….not even slipping under the fence really, it’s there in plain sight we just don’t think about outside the box. You mention electoral fraud which is a fair enough thing to worry about but I just think “they are importing hundreds of thousands of voters who ain’t “you!” right in front of our face” …..if that ain’t rigging a vote then I don’t know what is ? Like that stupid c**t Sunak with his ludicrous “National service” sound bite…..they ain’t got the slightest intention of reintroducing national service but all the time we are in a tizzy about that then we ain’t talking about the 3rd world shit hole our country has become and how hundreds of thousands of the 3rd world are flooding in totally unopposed…… Angles mate, we have to always look for the angles and I’m sure you do but as I have been regularly saying to people, even the people we think we loath may turn out to be our friend if is breaks the current system even a little bit. Our enemy’s enemy is our friend. I know you are on about immigration. I voted for brexit because of excessive immigration. But in hindsight it was a wasted vote because immigration has never been higher. Capitalism depends on a ready supply of workers. But first world's are not reproducing enough to replace themselves. First World population s is projected to half by the end of the century . Our government provides no incentive for women to stay home and bear children. In fact they do everything they can to deter that. AI will help in terms of needing less workers, but we will still be left with a huge shortfall. So what's the solution? Mass immigration! The system doesn't care what nationality or religion immigrants are. The big money men only care about profit. Foreigners control and own much of Britain, so they don't care about social cohesion or lack of public services for immigrants. The Rochdale and Rotherham child rapists are workers according to the system. The system doesn't care about indigenous identity or morality. Don't shoot the messenger! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 2 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I know you are on about immigration. I voted for brexit because of excessive immigration. But in hindsight it was a wasted vote because immigration has never been higher. Capitalism depends on a ready supply of workers. But first world's are not reproducing enough to replace themselves. First World population s is projected to half by the end of the century . Our government provides no incentive for women to stay home and bear children. In fact they do everything they can to deter that. AI will help in terms of needing less workers, but we will still be left with a huge shortfall. So what's the solution? Mass immigration! The system doesn't care what nationality or religion immigrants are. The big money men only care about profit. Foreigners control and own much of Britain, so they don't care about social cohesion or lack of public services for immigrants. The Rochdale and Rotherham child rapists are workers according to the system. The system doesn't care about indigenous identity or morality. Don't shoot the messenger! Good post mate. With regards to Trump and his “make America great again” , I watch a bloke on YouTube called Peter Santenello and he travels around America just getting into the bones of local community’s …….old coal towns in Appalachia and ex industry and steel towns in the mid west and south. When you see these places totally destroyed you very quickly understand why Trump is popular….much like much of our own industry that country has been gutted in so many places. I think you’d find sympathy with Mr Make America Great Again if you watched a few episodes because it would resonate with a bloke like you I think…..I think once upon a time we would have been polar opposites with our world view but I think a massive positive to come out of the last decade or so is that lads find themselves drifting ever closer together in that regard, the disagreements are normally just over how you go about mending it with most lads I think. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,684 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 14 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I know you are on about immigration. I voted for brexit because of excessive immigration. But in hindsight it was a wasted vote because immigration has never been higher. Capitalism depends on a ready supply of workers. But first world's are not reproducing enough to replace themselves. First World population s is projected to half by the end of the century . Our government provides no incentive for women to stay home and bear children. In fact they do everything they can to deter that. AI will help in terms of needing less workers, but we will still be left with a huge shortfall. So what's the solution? Mass immigration! The system doesn't care what nationality or religion immigrants are. The big money men only care about profit. Foreigners control and own much of Britain, so they don't care about social cohesion or lack of public services for immigrants. The Rochdale and Rotherham child rapists are workers according to the system. The system doesn't care about indigenous identity or morality. Don't shoot the messenger! On the subject of indigenous European child birth rates, it’s completely deliberate imho mate….I don’t think we have to look to far to see that. If Hungary can incentivise its own people to have more kids then the richest country’s in the world can too…..but they just don’t want to. jmho 6 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) Read an article recently on 'Pro natalism'. It's a small movement in the united states of patriotic young americans who are having as many children as they can. They see it as their moral duty. Edited May 31 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,262 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 17 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Read an article recently on 'Pro natalism'. It's a small movement in the united states of patriotic young americans who are having as many children as they can. They see it as their moral duty. They haven’t a cat in hells chance realistically,I keep abreast of certain types of news,the amount of people flooding into the states illegally daily is staggering,I have seen hundreds maybe thousands of them with my own eyes,pro Natalism kids knocking a baby a year out is sticking a plaster on open heart surgery. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,233 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 25 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Read an article recently on 'Pro natalism'. It's a small movement in the united states of patriotic young americans who are having as many children as they can. They see it as their moral duty. Sunday sport ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 25 minutes ago, Greyman said: Sunday sport ? Play nicely. Baby boom: pronatalism vs pro-family WWW.NESTA.ORG.UK Baby boom: pronatalism vs pro-family Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Pronatalism is the latest Silicon Valley trend. What is it – and why is it disturbing? THECONVERSATION.COM Pronatalism is inextricably tied to nationalism alongside race, class and ethnicity. Such a framing can quickly become xenophobic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,262 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Pronatalism is the latest Silicon Valley trend. What is it – and why is it disturbing? THECONVERSATION.COM Pronatalism is inextricably tied to nationalism alongside race, class and ethnicity. Such a framing can quickly become xenophobic. Silicon Valley?Latinos already outnumber whites in Cali,losing battle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 36 minutes ago, mackem said: Silicon Valley?Latinos already outnumber whites in Cali,losing battle. Yeah, I know mate. I put it up just to show some people and politicians are aware of the problem. But yes, pissing in the wind. Part of the problem are coffin dodgers like me who won't conveniently die and keep claiming their state pension. I'm pushing 75 and statistically I could last ten years or more. My son hopes to retire early in five years time. So if that comes off that will be two generations depending on public sector spending. Public sector spending must be earned by workers who are in short supply so what's the solution? Edited May 31 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 6,930 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The amount of people who are surprised about this really confounds me. Especially after he said how he and everyone at his level including the opposition does the same stuff he's haut honest....now can they hurry up and get Hillarys all on the floor. Side note, the fact people are pissed he had a thing with a poplar porn stare is just you know it's a bunch of cucks acting up in front of their wife's because they have their balls in their purses. Not gonna sit here and tell me the average red blooded guy wouldn't think about it if they could just buy a few nights with their favorite model or whatever 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: The amount of people who are surprised about this really confounds me. Especially after he said how he and everyone at his level including the opposition does the same stuff he's haut honest....now can they hurry up and get Hillarys all on the floor. Side note, the fact people are pissed he had a thing with a poplar porn stare is just you know it's a bunch of cucks acting up in front of their wife's because they have their balls in their purses. Not gonna sit here and tell me the average red blooded guy wouldn't think about it if they could just buy a few nights with their favorite model or whatever I'm not disputing Clinton and Kennedy did a lot of f***ing. And Clinton, Bush, Biden and Trump all dodged the draft. How can you be head of the armed services when you go missing from the action? But Trump is down another level imo. I've already said I can take a Mary Poppins position sometimes, but no I have never slept with another woman since I got married in 72. Never even been tempted even when I was working away from home. Why would I put my dick in another woman, especially a porn star and then go home and possibly infect my Mrs with an STD? I'm sure most guys are the same. You work hard for your family and don't rock the fragile family boat by f***ing everything in sight. Do you think Trump has been good for your people? What specifically has he changed for the better for African Americans and/or the working class? Edited May 31 by jukel123 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,262 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 15 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said: Side note, the fact people are pissed he had a thing with a poplar porn stare is just you know it's a bunch of cucks acting up in front of their wife's because they have their balls in their purses. Not gonna sit here and tell me the average red blooded guy wouldn't think about it if they could just buy a few nights with their favorite model or whatever Your fiancé better not read that Wolfie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,233 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 37 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I'm not disputing Clinton and Kennedy did a lot of f***ing. And Clinton, Bush, Biden and Trump all dodged the draft. How can you be head of the armed services when you go missing from the action? But Trump is down another level imo. I've already said I can take a Mary Poppins position sometimes, but no I have never slept with another woman since I got married in 72. Never even been tempted even when I was working away from home. Why would I put my dick in another woman, especially a porn star and then go home and possibly infect my Mrs with an STD? I'm sure most guys are the same. You work hard for your family and don't rock the fragile family boat by f***ing everything in sight. Do you think Trump has been good for your people? What specifically has he changed for the better for African Americans and/or the working class? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,256 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Wolfdog91 said: The amount of people who are surprised about this really confounds me. Especially after he said how he and everyone at his level including the opposition does the same stuff he's haut honest....now can they hurry up and get Hillarys all on the floor. Side note, the fact people are pissed he had a thing with a poplar porn stare is just you know it's a bunch of cucks acting up in front of their wife's because they have their balls in their purses. Not gonna sit here and tell me the average red blooded guy wouldn't think about it if they could just buy a few nights with their favorite model or whatever Gotta be honest wolfie , I wouldn't even entertain the idea of knobbing another woman while I'm married. Don't get me wrong , when I was single , I had more than my share(thats a feckin understatement) , but it's just something that I wouldn't even consider as a married man. It's due to respect for my wife , and my own integrity and self worth. If your wife can't trust you , nobody can trust you. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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