mr moocher 933 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 ive had bulldogs for 40 years i love the breed but in the right hands ,ive had dogs try to kill me but part and parcel of high drive dogs i keep more level headed dogs nowadays,my daughters keep bulldogs too each to their own 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 (edited) As a lifelong admirer of the Apbt these shitty useless 2 bob mutts they call Xl Bullies are the perfect example of why folk like me who are purists do not condone the crossing of the breed in any way whatsoever. Kept by the right people for the right purposes the pure,proven family bred Apbt is the Rolls Royce of the sport it was intended for,even crossing to another family within the breed needs careful consideration....a cross outside the breed should not even be an option......why would anybody with a Rolls Royce even consider putting a Cortina engine in it !......likewise why would a Rolls Royce owner allow there car to be prostituted out in order to improve a Cortina......no.....the many years of extreme selection is what makes them the elite in the first place.......why go and f**k that all up for money or ego which can be got anywhere.....to me there is no excuse at all for breeding a genuine honest example of the Apbt outside of its own. Edited August 26 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,898 Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 3 hours ago, gnasher16 said: As a lifelong admirer of the Apbt these shitty useless 2 bob mutts they call Xl Bullies are the perfect example of why folk like me who are purists do not condone the crossing of the breed in any way whatsoever. Kept by the right people for the right purposes the pure,proven family bred Apbt is the Rolls Royce of the sport it was intended for,even crossing to another family within the breed needs careful consideration....a cross outside the breed should not even be an option......why would anybody with a Rolls Royce even consider putting a Cortina engine in it !......likewise why would a Rolls Royce owner allow there car to be prostituted out in order to improve a Cortina......no.....the many years of extreme selection is what makes them the elite in the first place.......why go and f**k that all up for money or ego which can be got anywhere.....to me there is no excuse at all for breeding a genuine honest example of the Apbt outside of its own. Spot on Gnashing.mate, in pure form the bulldog=apbt the supreme canine athlete of the dog world, and as you say in the right hands the breed great animal to be around. OK the pit added to the lurcher genes, as deff gave the lurcher great benefits grit ,power, drive. To make them great hunting dog. But these xl bully things, are just poor bred bandog type animal, bred as guard dog etc, just a money making thing. Some are fetching up to £25 grand , what said on the TV just watched. The big prob with those dogs. Is that nobody really knows if they have reliable temps. Bloody he'll 40lb bulldog=apbt would wreak you if fippled it's lead, so God knows what a 100lb xl bully could do if it went crazy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,098 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 11 hours ago, bird said: But rather have nice soft lurcher in my old age now.lol I'm the same Ray, a bit too old for bulldogs now as much as I like them, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timmy k 591 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 Funny what you say because the bull lurcher is not just bastardizing one great athlete but two, both the best at their chosen profession if you will, but it works and works well. I agree though with the concept. especially if the end result is so you look hard 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pewit 970 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, timmy k said: Funny what you say because the bull lurcher is not just bastardizing one great athlete but two, both the best at their chosen profession if you will, but it works and works well. I agree though with the concept. especially if the end result is so you look hard People don't breed bull cross lurchers to look hard, they breed them to catch things. It has no bearing whatsoever on the APBT's lines 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timmy k 591 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, Pewit said: People don't breed bull cross lurchers to look hard, they breed them to catch things. It has no bearing whatsoever on the APBT's lines I know, I was referring to them xl monstrosities 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,722 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, Pewit said: People don't breed bull cross lurchers to look hard, they breed them to catch things. It has no bearing whatsoever on the APBT's lines Like you said mate their not or did breed bull greyhounds to compete in the box and the lurcher would have never been produced if the case for keeping breeds pure. Though I honestly do not see the point in breeding the apbt to other breeds to create monstrosity dogs we see like the xl bully's. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,390 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 I've not seen/met one of them XL bully things,that I would own/feed personally...looking about now,there's lots of lads with these presa/ corso X's ,cropped ears and docked tails all over the dog pages on Instagram etc...how long before the dickheads start crossing alsorts into them??? Letting such an animal loose AMONGST your terriers/runners joining in and busting stuff up...is a recipe for disaster ...I honestly can't see why anyone in this country would have a use for one,other than to stroke their egos...and peddle the pups to the next joker... Bumped into a f***ing idiot few nights ago... getting dragged around on the lead by one around our little fishing lake...shouted over don't come near him..the bloke had to be 20 stone,had no control whatsoever... thinking if he goes out after 12 am he's f***ing safe to let it roam around some poor cnuts walking home from the pub, cutting through and this thing could grab them game overor worse still one of the youngsters doing a nighter Quite a few of these dogs by me,have become ill,someones f****d off and going around chucking poison treats over the garden's and through the letter boxes...not ideal as you ain't guaranteed to hit the Pacific target...but needs must I guess.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 (edited) 10 hours ago, timmy k said: Funny what you say because the bull lurcher is not just bastardizing one great athlete but two, both the best at their chosen profession if you will, but it works and works well. I agree though with the concept. especially if the end result is so you look hard Point being the Apbt as a breed or infact the owners of the breed gain absolutely nothing from such a cross.....hence " IF " the right people were owning the breed for the right purposes the Lurcher would have to go elsewhere to find such qualities its a win win for the Lurcher while again,the Apbt gains nothing.....dont get me wrong i get it why wouldnt people want to use the most magnificent breed in existence to improve their own.....i just look back at old hands like Tudor and folk of that era who probably didnt even know what a Lurcher was and wonder what they would reflect on the time and effort they put into purifying families of the breed only for the next generations to f**k them up prostituting them out to any old shit. Edited August 27 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 585 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 17 hours ago, bird said: Spot on Gnashing.mate, in pure form the bulldog=apbt the supreme canine athlete of the dog world, and as you say in the right hands the breed great animal to be around. OK the pit added to the lurcher genes, as deff gave the lurcher great benefits grit ,power, drive. To make them great hunting dog. But these xl bully things, are just poor bred bandog type animal, bred as guard dog etc, just a money making thing. Some are fetching up to £25 grand , what said on the TV just watched. The big prob with those dogs. Is that nobody really knows if they have reliable temps. Bloody he'll 40lb bulldog=apbt would wreak you if fippled it's lead, so God knows what a 100lb xl bully could do if it went crazy. We know what happens when a 100lb XL bully goes crazy......it's in the news headlines every week....people are killed and maimed. Nobody needs dogs like that, especially the wannabe gangsta ballbegs that seem to be desperate to be seen with them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,898 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 3 hours ago, littlefish said: We know what happens when a 100lb XL bully goes crazy......it's in the news headlines every week....people are killed and maimed. Nobody needs dogs like that, especially the wannabe gangsta ballbegs that seem to be desperate to be seen with them. True mate, was just refection on size differences with xlbully, and apbt , wonder what mastiff type there using I did read, some used and and some used presa with apbt to get a xlbully type dog. I don't trust a presa few lads who protection work , say real handful to work with. I think it was on news tonight somebody been.attacked in brummie tonight by a dog. Not sure of the breed .? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,390 Posted August 27 Report Share Posted August 27 A dog that takes a shine to biting folk or the hand that feeds it.... should be PTS,not f***ing bred from ... practicing such stupidity....it can only end one way 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,158 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 On 27/08/2024 at 10:22, Pewit said: People don't breed bull cross lurchers to look hard, they breed them to catch things. It has no bearing whatsoever on the APBT's lines Definitely the hardest looking lads at the game fair though mate.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,158 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 20 hours ago, Daniel cain said: ..not ideal as you ain't guaranteed to hit the Pacific target...but needs must I guess.. Like a drop in the ocean? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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