mC HULL 12,105 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, dogmandont said: Lol There's tougher Jack Russels than the fluff hounds. Lol. A dog running itself to a standstill isn't jacking it just physically can't keep going but ass grabbing and standing off barking definitely is lol. it’s just occupying it while it chooses it hold when doing that lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,234 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 7 hours ago, WILF said: Walk to the future ! He's got the weapons 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,234 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 (edited) 7 hours ago, WILF said: Walk to the future ! He's got the weapons Edited August 28 by low plains drifter Dinner box in limbo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,735 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: it’s just occupying it while it chooses it hold when doing that lol I've owned a few that liked to keep themselves occupied, lol. 3 strikes and your out. Lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,035 Posted August 28 Report Share Posted August 28 56 minutes ago, mC HULL said: it’s just occupying it while it chooses it hold when doing that lol Add a bit of bull mc to your line you will benefit no ends it will add to your line guts loyalty and recall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 17 hours ago, mC HULL said: not a lurcher god mate lol send me one a yours down i’ll get it right you’d think don mayfield was reborn You wouldnt have a clue what you was looking at mate.....Mayfield was the greatest conditioner of his day.....but that was them days ! 17 hours ago, mC HULL said: i agree but most of the legendary dog men at that time were peddlers if they could a made money doing it they would not knocking them different time and it created the best there is for that job How is selling fighting dogs to other fighting dog men peddling ? None of them old timers were whiter than white when it came to hanging papers,selling curs and many of the other unscrupulous dealings of the day.....to pretend they came anywhere even close to their predecessors in terms of selling the dogs out is plain wrong. 17 hours ago, mC HULL said: and it was pointless using bull in lurchers all it done was create quitters lol And i suppose the " bull " part of the genetic make up is supposed to take the blame for that ........see what i mean ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,105 Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: You wouldnt have a clue what you was looking at mate.....Mayfield was the greatest conditioner of his day.....but that was them days ! How is selling fighting dogs to other fighting dog men peddling ? None of them old timers were whiter than white when it came to hanging papers,selling curs and many of the other unscrupulous dealings of the day.....to pretend they came anywhere even close to their predecessors in terms of selling the dogs out is plain wrong. And i suppose the " bull " part of the genetic make up is supposed to take the blame for that ........see what i mean ! would you say dogs are better conditioned today gnash ? are they going for longer getting a dog in condition is the easy part keeping it there when hammering it a few times a week for months on end is the hard part mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,024 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 (edited) On 29/08/2024 at 11:03, mC HULL said: would you say dogs are better conditioned today gnash ? are they going for longer getting a dog in condition is the easy part keeping it there when hammering it a few times a week for months on end is the hard part mate The better condition a dog is in the longer it will take to find the quit in it. We're talking about 2 completely different things......no dog can be held at peak condition for months on end......conditioning a dog is one thing,peaking a dog is something else again. Cricket and Tennis both use a bat and a ball but they are not the same sports Edited August 30 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxo 441 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 6 hours ago, gnasher16 said: The better condition a dog is in the longer it will take to find the quit in it. We're talking about 2 completely different things......no dog can be held at peak condition for months on end......conditioning a dog is one thing,peaking a dog is something else again. Cricket and Tennis both use a bat and a ball but they are not the same sports "Fatigue makes cowards of us all" George Patton? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,084 Posted August 30 Report Share Posted August 30 I had never really heard about these dogs until recently but as a keen amateur cynologist I have done a little research. Bill Sykes invented the EBT in 1964. He sold the litter wastage that had no chance of winning Crufts to the Americans in America. The Americans crossed the poor quality EBT's with pointers and created the APBT. Mike Reid imported APBT's into England in 1984. He sold a bitch to his milkman, Ernie. Ernie delivered milk to Diane Abbott. To Diane's eye that APBT was the most perfect of dogs and she purchased it from Ernie and put her Great Dane, Scooby Do, over the bitch. And created the 1st XL Bullie. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,105 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 22 hours ago, gnasher16 said: The better condition a dog is in the longer it will take to find the quit in it. We're talking about 2 completely different things......no dog can be held at peak condition for months on end......conditioning a dog is one thing,peaking a dog is something else again. Cricket and Tennis both use a bat and a ball but they are not the same sports i agree mate but some will drop before they quit i’m talking running dogs this is we’re i am now start of the season in few week fit conditioned then get it behind them but peaking crimbo hopefully he will be a bit lighter by then but everything heightened twitching like a crack head lol the only way you will get them to there peak is doing it running them no conditioning road work jogging slatmill will do it mate like you say two different things heard bits a mayfield talking the bits about salt was intersteing how true i don’t know 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,105 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 On 28/08/2024 at 21:29, dogmandont said: I've owned a few that liked to keep themselves occupied, lol. 3 strikes and your out. Lol. lol i’d expect that owning bull x mate ive never had it with the type i keep honest lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 21 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i agree mate but some will drop before they quit i’m talking running dogs this is we’re i am now start of the season in few week fit conditioned then get it behind them but peaking crimbo hopefully he will be a bit lighter by then but everything heightened twitching like a crack head lol the only way you will get them to there peak is doing it running them no conditioning road work jogging slatmill will do it mate like you say two different things heard bits a mayfield talking the bits about salt was intersteing how true i don’t know Dog's looking fit, Gooey. How tall is he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,105 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 3 minutes ago, shaaark said: Dog's looking fit, Gooey. How tall is he? 26tts mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,735 Posted August 31 Report Share Posted August 31 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: lol i’d expect that owning bull x mate ive never had it with the type i keep honest lol Lol took me a while in my younger days to realise that the right blood is essential on both sides, when I got that sorted the ass grabbing all but stopped. Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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